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Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 10:03:34 No.2693505 View View Reply Original Report

Discuss, request, and recommend /u/-related /lit/ works!

Previous Thread: >>2626537

Recommendations doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18e71t0H7v6olXdY9Ig0giUjnhSt1zltLcLSpj3SxRaI/

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ulit Archives 2017 torrent (4670 books, release dates up till December 2017):
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ulit Archives 2017 Erotica add-on (969 books)
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>How to find books:

Mobilism Search for Lesbian, FF, LGBT, and GLBT keywords:
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B-OK (Bookzz):
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Library Genesis:
http://libgen.io/

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Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 10:04:49 No.2693507 Report

Quoted By: >>2706079

New to /u/lit? Here's a handy chart to get you started.

Collection download:
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/BauJ1hW7/file.html

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Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 10:05:25 No.2693509 Report

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Oversized Chart Part I

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Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 10:06:01 No.2693511 Report

Quoted By: >>2706079

Part II

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_DHtc4amFKsTXNSR2psaGkxRkU/view

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Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 10:51:14 No.2693538 Report

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Some late replies to a few of the last thread's requests. Sorry nee-sans.

>>2674496
>Alex westmore's new book, "dead mans chest"?
https://www5.zippyshare.com/v/lsHxd1KO/file.html

>>2649328
>Does anyone happen to have Stargazing by Kathy L. Salt ?
https://www54.zippyshare.com/v/8Kf4gR2e/file.html

>>2642192
>Anyone have Gerri hill the locket?
https://www39.zippyshare.com/v/riCIOECq/file.html

>>2627478
>Obligatory: anyone that can share Can you hear me by Geonn Cannon?
https://www17.zippyshare.com/v/7nYEFKfr/file.html

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Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 16:23:08 No.2693710 Report

Quoted By: >>2701217

Tempered steel by m e logan is a bit miserable. Anyone know if the sequel gets any better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Aug 2018 20:38:47 No.2693841 Report

Quoted By: >>2696425

Anyone got the two books of the Vaelandrian Goddesses series by Cassandra Duffy?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 17:46:16 No.2694442 Report

Quoted By: >>2694448 >>2694462 >>2694475 >>2694479 >>2694517 >>2694521 >>2695472

I have a question I'm hoping you can provide some input on.

I've been working on a story for some time. A space adventure with a female MC, starting with her as a young adult and following her career as a secret agent from there. My initial idea was to have the MC be a lesbian who has several romances with various women and girls throughout her adventures, some overtly sexual, some not. Thing is, I'm not a lesbian or a woman, so how do I write this without being accused of fetishism? Her lesbianism isn't a big part of the character and it's never made out as a big thing or plays any large role in the adventures outside of a few occasions. She's just into girls. There's no reason she has to be a lesbian, I just kind of liked the idea and now I'm attached to the character. I really don't want to come across like Andy Dobson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 17:59:44 No.2694448 Report

Quoted By: >>2694479 >>2694808

>>2694442
Honestly, that is a pretty difficult question. A few male writers do write lesbian females and as long as the book is not a harem sex party, only really extreme people will cry fetishism. Godsgrave has two hot 18 year old girls having hot gay sex and nobody pilloried the male author.

Maybe run some of it by a woman friend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 18:19:31 No.2694462 Report

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>>2694442
I find this kind of question weird, actually.
How would you write a female character without fetishizing women? Isn't it the same? And yet most author don't give a shit about it (although sometimes they should).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 18:52:49 No.2694475 Report

Quoted By: >>2694808

>>2694442
Read this: https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2018/apr/03/male-authors-write-female-characters-twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 18:58:23 No.2694479 Report

Quoted By: >>2694512 >>2694808

>>2694442

This >>2694448 related:

>I get the “how/why do you write girls” question a lot. As if it’s some kind of alchemy. As if it’s harder for me to write a female as opposed to a murderer or psychopath or soldier (or any of a hundred things I’ve never been)
>I can’t help but think there’s a poisonous, divisive mentality at the heart of that. That men can’t write women, or vice versa. That we are so different, we cannot possibly truly know each other
>This may be a revelatory concept for some, but women are not unknowable magical unicorns beyond the ken of those not Them.

They’re just people. Amazing and fierce and fucked up and flawed and everything between. Just people.

As a woman I agree 100%.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 19:40:09 No.2694512 Report

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>>2694479
This is my mentality. I think the only people who condemn ALL male writers of female/lesbian characters are those with very obvious prejudices

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 19:55:33 No.2694517 Report

Quoted By: >>2694521 >>2694808

>>2694442
Actually, I do have some general advice with an asterisk. It's best you actually try and find what and find if something offends or is unnatural or is just a minor peeve. Don't change your work or force yourself to do something to appease someone, if you are going to change stuff at least understand why.

Try not to put breast size in the character descriptions. If you have to, make it short or tongue in cheek or indirect. Many writers seem to go with slender (meaning sexy with small breasts) and curvy (meaning sexy with big breasts). Try and avoid incest and underage stuff.

That advice is pretty much useless in the big picture. I simply advise knowing who you are writing for and what they are willing to accept. Unless you get a fluke and somehow get huge, nobody will really read your stuff outside your main audience and you won't get any hot takes directed at you from twitter.
Anyway I have way overthought this if you can't tell and I still have a ton of useless stuff I could say on it but its pointless.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 20:01:43 No.2694521 Report

Quoted By: >>2694534

>>2694517
>Try and avoid incest and underage stuff.

>>2694442
Disregard that advice, we need more incest and underage stuff. Bonus points for underage twincest. I'll actually send you a beer via post if you do that.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 20:14:45 No.2694531 Report

Quoted By: >>2694633

Haven't been to one of these threads in a year. Has an author managed to write something as technically good as Baru Cormorant yet or is /u/ lit primarily still dime store harlequin writers?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 20:16:37 No.2694534 Report

Quoted By: >>2694541 >>2694542

>>2694521
DA but underage aside, I don't even get why incest is so problematic. Sure, it can be unhealthy, but all kind of relationships can. Sure, it can give genetic problems, but it can be done without reproduction, and even if it's not the case, we have psychological mechanisms that will never allow it to be the norm.
There's some consensual and healthy incestual relationship in the real world. I believe the same kind of conservationism that creates homophobia is responsible for judging incest.
I'll write my lesbian incest sci-fi action someday.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 20:19:23 No.2694541 Report

Quoted By: >>2694547

>>2694534
Incest has a higher chance to be unhealthy due to power dynamics within the family. Especially when it comes to parent-child couples.
As far as fetishes go, though, it's pretty vanilla, and I also don't see why some people treat it like the worst sin ever.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 20:21:53 No.2694542 Report

Quoted By: >>2694547

>>2694534
The simple answer is basically inertia. Humanity learned to be against incest in a few different ways, many related to social pressure and cultural norms. These were typically pretty general for a variety of reasons when they were codified. Since there aren't any serious punishments for incest alone (only when paired with more serious shit like grooming/pedophilia) and most people think it's pretty creepy/weird, even the biggest freedom-advocates tend to not bother campaigning for incest rights or whatever.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 20:30:33 No.2694547 Report

Quoted By: >>2694565

>>2694541
Sure it's rare, but it can happen, and that shouldn't be ignored.

>>2694542
>even the biggest freedom-advocates tend to not bother campaigning for incest rights or whatever.
I don't think they should make incest marriage legal or something, because it's way too rare, to begin with. Not worth to bother with it.
But being a crime even when consensual like in some countries is exaggerated. And it shouldn't be such a big taboo in fiction either. If you write such relationship in a positive light, people will want to burn your story.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 21:01:53 No.2694565 Report

Quoted By: >>2694579

>>2694547
Yeah, but you can say the same about student<->teacher, boss<->employee, age gap, supernatural power differences, differences in wealth, differences in social standing, differences in physical capability, difference in ... heck, we've got a whole bunch of straight up Stockholm Syndrome novels.

And frankly it sometimes is "yucky". I dimly remember some physical therapist and her charge as a novel with a lot of reviews pointing out that it was pretty unethical to romantically pursue somebody that's in your care; that how problematic such a decision (despite both being independent adults, outside this situation) can be was not adequately addressed for reader's comfort.

But - I suppose we typically just accept "it's a romantic fantasy". And in this direction I don't really get what makes incest so incredibly disgusting for some.

Not that there is much around for anyone to be offended by anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 21:14:47 No.2694579 Report

Quoted By: >>2695594

>>2694565
>boss<->employee, age gap, supernatural power differences, differences in wealth, differences in wealth
Both are still adults who haven't been spending 70% of their everyday life for the past 16 years with each other. Difference in social standings doesn't necessarily imply that the one with the higher standing is going to exercise some special power over their partner, unlike in parent-child or older sibling-younger sibling relationships, where often the younger one is submissive simply because they're younger. This obviously only applies to cases where the family members involved spend a lot of time together, and not for something like older distant cousin-younger distant cousin, where it's not any different from your usual age gap because there is no established relationship dynamic.

>student<->teacher
Same as above, can be between adults as well. For example, university student/teacher. Speaking of, I've seen some people freak out over this because muh student-teacher relationships and professional ethics. Can't a 20+ girl just bang her sexy biomed professor?

Again, as far as fetishes go, incest is pretty mild, but I can see why some wouldn't be too keen on painting real life incest relationship in a positive light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 22:04:45 No.2694613 Report

Quoted By: >>2694637 >>2694652

So, is Craig Schaefer's Revanchist series set in the same world Nessa and Marie visit in Detonation Boulevard?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 22:34:27 No.2694633 Report

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>>2694531
> is /u/ lit primarily still dime store harlequin writers
This is our default state unfortunately. The Baru sequel is coming out in October though, so there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 22:41:46 No.2694637 Report

Quoted By: >>2694662

>>2694613
From what I understand all of his series are set in the same shared universe, so yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 23:25:47 No.2694652 Report

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>>2694613
Yes. It becomes clearer in the later Revanche books that this is their previous life Nessa and Marie often dream about.

In Detonation Boulevard, when Nessa says she can remember laying under the stars, on bedrolls, teaching Marie the constellations.....you get to see that happen.

Update, to the anons who wanted the skinny Nessa/Marie variation of the Revanche Cycle. I’m tidying up some formatting, and giving it a final read before uploading it. Hope to post it tomorrow.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Aug 2018 23:32:06 No.2694662 Report

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>>2694637
It's actually a multiverse, hence the question.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Aug 2018 03:11:46 No.2694808 Report

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>>2694448
I'll have to at some point. Luckily there's a glut of female editors so I'm pretty sure any obvious characterizations will be pointed out.

>>2694475
>The Guardian
Well, I disagree with some of what was said, but I get the jist. I think I can avoid some of the usual cliches. I think I've got the benefit of having a character who isn't a "typical woman" for lack of a better term. She's more like Emily Blunt's character in Sicario, but in space and with her shit more put together.

>>2694479
>>2694517
Yeah, I get this. I've always tried to maintain the principle that you write characters first and genders second. I feel like the character I've written avoids a lot of the usual stuff because of her upbringing and education.

Anyway, thanks for all the advice, I'll be sure to keep it in mind if I ever get this thing finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 03:00:36 No.2695472 Report

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>>2694442
Here's a protip you won't really hear anywhere else: if you try too hard to write a good lesbian character while taking into account the fact that she's a lesbian —by reading a ton of stuff, like academic articles, essays, random posts on the internet, biographies— you might end up writing a character that fits the "theory" much, much too well. That would certainly earn you cookie points from feminists, but you still wouldn't exactly connect with lesbian readers (if you want something like that). You could remedy to that and the danger of fetishization by "simply" removing in your mind those deeply held beliefs about men and women having different essences, and use your own experiences and empathy to build a character; basically, instead of creating a lesbian character, create a human character first. With this approach you will probably end up with something that feels much more real while avoiding a lot of pitfall, but a few details influenced by your upbringing and position in society as a man will certainly still slip in. How do you remove those? I think reading about lesbians, LGBT issues and history and history of women in general could help minimize those, but there's still the issue of creating a personification of theoretical ideas instead of a character that feels real —it's a common issue in militant women's writings too, so it's not like it's an issue easy to avoid. Still, how could you go further than that? Well, that's where I'm kind of stuck personally, and although now I probably have much more knowledge about lesbian cultures, history and media than the average lesbian woman, I have for the moment being no better advice than trying to find a middle ground between the personification of theoretical ideas and a human-first character based on your personal experiences and that of other persons regardless of sex.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 06:23:03 No.2695594 Report

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>>2694579
When it comes to teacher and student it's the appearance of favoriting one student above the others not because of excellence but by merely a sexual nature. Plus it looks bad on the uni in general if all the teachers are banging students.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 10:07:13 No.2695650 Report

Quoted By: >>2695654

Jenn Gott - The Lady of Souls
Book 1 of her Beacon Campaigns fantasy series. I'm actually quite happy with this.

It's competently written, set in a decent world (magic industrialization sort of thing), with non-one-dimensional characters, and a plot that hasn't necessarily been done a billion times.

It dragged a little, and maybe also because of that it felt a bit as if it didn't have any real highlights, but that's about it as far as real problems are concerned; I think. So well done.

Now, just for me personally, I didn't manage to like one of the heroines too well. There's the older, grumpy, cynical, abrasive one - and if I had to guess you maybe aren't supposed to "like" her, but she felt like a fully developed character that made sense - and then there's the younger, a bit more naive, more optimistic, more compassionate one ... but she almost came across as if she felt "entitled to win". She's literally got zero useful skills, but then complains when the other one doesn't take her too seriously, just because she's determined ... and then gets mostly saved by luck or coincidence or by somebody else. "Haven't I proven myself?" Well, no, not actually. It kinda ends with the message that "you can be a hero if you want to be", but frankly, the message needs a "yes, if you are capable" caveat; and she really wasn't. But it all works out anyway, of course.

On the other hand this really isn't something unique to this book so I wasn't too annoyed by it. More like "yeah, it's a fantasy adventure, it's what they do ...".

Lastly, don't be irritated by one of the main characters being addressed as "he". I mean, just pointing it out probably is some sort of spoiler, but obviously this is a FF series, so. Well.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 10:09:31 No.2695651 Report

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Reign of the Fallen by Sarah Glenn Marsh

A group of necromancers that resurrect nobles whenever they die get caught up in a conspiracy to bring the kingdom down.

First off, I did enjoy it. Its very typical of modern YA fantasy and rather dour but it had more action then I expected and the good guys aren't frustratingly helpless and easily manipulated like lots of YA. Characters were fine, nothing special but nice enough people and writing was easy to understand with no glaring mistakes and was not distracting which is generally what you hope for in YA.

That said, the book was not subtle. You can figure out who the bad guy is a third of the way in and its really easy to see what are supposed to be clues for later. It's really blunt, the temple to the god of Change is banned, the king says that progress is a poison to a kingdom, I guess it's written for younger people as the sexual content is only implied.

Romance wise MC is bi and starts off with a boyfriend but shit happens and a female love interest is introduced some way through the book. I actually really liked the female LI and the romance was pretty cute though I don't know how I'd feel if the sequel didn't look like it was promising more of it.

I think my biggest thing is just the wasted potential. The dead nobles must keep themselves covered up otherwise they turn into powerful monsters. This could have meant old and eccentric dukes dressed in fabulous shrouds, hamming it up but instead the nobles are all meek and none have agency. The book is a 'turn the populace against the different people' plot and when its not that its about grief and drug addiction. Like I said there is more action than expected and those scenes are fun but they are short and the monsters aren't really very interesting.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 10:13:51 No.2695654 Report

Quoted By: >>2695657

>>2695650
Wait this is gay? Is the other main crossdressing or is there a female love interest not mentioned in the summary?

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 10:18:14 No.2695657 Report

Quoted By: >>2695660

>>2695654
Yap, it's FF, although slow. So no real romance in book one, but it's obvious who the love interests are.
She's crossdressing since the world is vaguely patriarchal. Amusingly, the older one is also crossdressing, just not hiding her gender. And she knows that she's a lesbian but the younger one only figures it out at the start of book 2, even if it's clear they are into each other - they are that type of bickering, nagging at each other sort of couple. Well. "Friends" so far.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 10:20:55 No.2695660 Report

Quoted By: >>2695669

>>2695657
So did she choose the last name Mannly? because thats hilarious.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Aug 2018 10:30:02 No.2695669 Report

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>>2695660
No, I think that's her real name, although I'm not sure whether it's from her mother, her biological father, or her later step-father. If it's mentioned I forgot about it.

I suppose it fits, since the other one is called Fellows. Like "that fellow over there!" Hadn't really thought about it but probably not a coincidence if both main heroines have a male family name? Sort of.

Or maybe it is. Who knows.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Aug 2018 01:33:54 No.2696130 Report

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Hey, I’ve never read any lesbian erotica before and I’ve looked into the recommend doc and I want to find something just short to try. Will a kind anon recommend me any short story that is cute, sweet and lewd?

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Anonymous Thu 30 Aug 2018 07:15:28 No.2696303 Report

Quoted By: >>2696425

Anyone have Escape & freedom by Claire Highton-Stevenson cant find it on mobilism??

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Anonymous Thu 30 Aug 2018 15:05:46 No.2696425 Report

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>>2693841
>Anyone got the two books of the Vaelandrian Goddesses series by Cassandra Duffy?
https://www34.zippyshare.com/v/Z5TWyyZv/file.html

>>2696303
https://www51.zippyshare.com/v/WpdiUxIN/file.html

There ya go sisters

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Anonymous Thu 30 Aug 2018 15:59:07 No.2696457 Report

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Jenn Gott - Fixing Fate
Book 2 in the Beacon Campaign.
Alas, depressing, my fledgling enthusiasm for the series is already dead again.

This book is about the younger one figuring out her sexuality, which is accomplished my angsty inner dialogues at every single opportunity. "We are taking a train! I can't take it! Oh my god, we are sitting in the same apartment! I'm going crazy!" Doesn't even matter what they do. It drags out in the worst godawful way, and of course at any opportunity either of them is about to actually communicate something to the other they are interrupted or otherwise distracted. "No, I can't possibly finish this crucial sentence now that there's a mild breeze distracting us."

If this were on of those GIF reviews, I'd post a bunch of eye-roll-gifs here.

Of course, as practiced readers of FF fiction, we'd all go "well, that's just par for the course, what do you expect? Crucial is the pay off at the end ..." Which is correct, but unfortunately, there simply is no pay off. It ends exactly with the same "I'm going to tell her ... not." moment (actually, just to rub it in, they both do it...) as what was served through the entire novel.

Now, obviously, this is not just a romance - although unlike book 1 it's clearly more of an angsty non-romance with an adventure on the side as the other way around - but the plot feels, frankly, similar. Although again there's good ideas and all and the heroines prevent some immediate catastrophe nothing is truly solved. Bad guys go happily on their way, presumably ready to be trotted out in the next book again.

Sigh. I guess at some point the series must get over itself and actually finish something, so maybe the next books are actually better again, but I'm not eager to find out that I'm wrong on that ...

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Anonymous Sat 01 Sep 2018 12:54:23 No.2697823 Report

Quoted By: >>2697829

This might be a bit of an odd question, but can anyone recommend /u/ fiction in the vein of postmodern literature? I have a really difficult time falling into anything else these days.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Sep 2018 13:16:05 No.2697829 Report

Quoted By: >>2697985

>>2697823
Define postmodern literature

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Anonymous Sat 01 Sep 2018 16:59:50 No.2697985 Report

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>>2697829
Burroughs, Wallace, Pyncheon, that sort.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Sep 2018 20:01:42 No.2698111 Report

Quoted By: >>2699003

Alex Foster - Heart of the Hunter
A quick-paced poly urban fantasy thing. It's not very well written, which is probably its main problem, along with the sketchy world building.

The plot itself is kinda interesting, but, I mean, what's the point if the prose makes it a chore to read ...

Karen Klyne - Parallel Lives
This at least is cleanly written, but it's so friggin' carelessly put together. It's a portal fantasy; very classic with the heroine sitting in her little plan and crashing and then somehow ending up in a woman only society ... except that at first she's told there also are men and that they occasionally visit; they just don't stay around. But then later it's implied they have no clue what men look like ...

Oh, and they somehow have electricity, heck, they there small community has the capacity to waste resources on pool tables and whatnot, but they have never heard of the incredible invention of ... scarfs. Luckily a heroine from another world comes by to save the people from having cold necks; none of them ever thought that maybe wrapping it in some sort of cloth would be a workable idea ...

The characters are basically the same. They are somewhere around carelessly random and annoying and not making any sense. Pretty bad when it's mostly a cheesy romance. Overall pretty bleh.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Sep 2018 15:04:49 No.2698793 Report

Quoted By: >>2698828 >>2698960 >>2701225

Alright /u/, name your favorite lesfic quote and why. Maybe we can inspire each other to try and read something new.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Sep 2018 16:05:41 No.2698828 Report

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>>2698793
"No matter how many stones you throw in the water, you cannot dam the ocean"

It's from one of the books from Chronicles of Alsea series. Thought it was great in the moment of the book altought I don't remember it anymore.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Sep 2018 20:07:50 No.2698960 Report

Quoted By: >>2701180

Kieran York - Beryl Trevar Mystery 1
Well, that was a disappointmet. Some wishfulfillment-ish setup about some sexy PI lesbians living on a yacht in Miami, investigating things for equally sexy ladies.

But while that may have been fun in multiple ways, the incredibly cheesy insta romance - nevermind the wife of the love interest just having been murdered - was awful. "She is a goddess of a woman! I'd rip out my heart to be with her forever!" Yeah, well, after seeing somebody twice (or maybe thrice) that's a sane reaction, definitely.

The case wasn't much better and the prose pretty basic, so, nothing redeeming as far as I could see.

>>2698793
For fun
> In the darkness, the rubber tree plants lining the walls trembled ever so slightly. They were glad to be alone there and proud of their flexibility.
In Francine Saint Marie's The Secret Trilogy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Sep 2018 21:25:30 No.2699003 Report

Quoted By: >>2699500

>>2698111
Thanks for continuing to post these.
You have a knack for finding the bizarre or incongruous aspects of otherwise unremarkably mediocre books.
I wonder, though, why finish them if they are this tiresome?
Is it a "so bad it's good" type of appeal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 02:26:34 No.2699285 Report

Quoted By: >>2699331

I'm looking for a good story involving some old and powerful entity x someone mortal. Preferably the entity is kinda snooty and jaded towards human folk ( or whatever weaker beings exist within the story ) but the little one makes them warm up.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 03:29:23 No.2699331 Report

Quoted By: >>2701519

>>2699285
The One Who Eats Monsters by Casey Matthews

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Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 03:53:36 No.2699347 Report

Quoted By: >>2699355

Tomorrow 9/3 seems to be the day that Dark Dawn releases. If anyone is taking the plunge please report back.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 04:04:25 No.2699355 Report

Quoted By: >>2699416

>>2699347
Sorry, you misunderstood. DD is releasing 3rd September 2019

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Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 07:06:30 No.2699416 Report

Quoted By: >>2699423

>>2699355
Then I shall prepare myself for what will likely be a sad ending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 07:26:45 No.2699423 Report

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>>2699416
Honestly the series only wears the appearance of being edgy and subversive, I now kind of expect a happy ending where Mia fakes her death after finishing up the god nonsense and travels the world with Ashlyn and Tric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 07:41:10 No.2699425 Report

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The Tattered Lands by Barbara Ann Wright.

A fantasy world where all of humanity are crammed into one small country that is shielding from an apocalyptic mist by alchemical pylons. When one goes out a disgraced alchemist is sent to find out why, meets a fairy princess and falls into a conspiracy.

The only thing I've read from this author is Coils and this falls short of that. Its story and characters are unremarkable, and the insta-love does bother me. I don't mind insta-love on principle and the characters are cute together but the real problem with insta-love is that it is often used as a shortcut so that a lot of the actual appealing stuff of romance is cut out in favour of trying to get the pieces ready for the plot and this falls victim to that hard as the characters spend very little time with each other and the love acts as motivation for them (I'm a terrible writer so I have no idea if what I just wrote makes any sense).

Coils also had the whole underworld tourism aspect where the characters would constantly go to places and meet characters from mythology and that was pretty cool while the locations and situations in this are generic city, forest, wasteland and enemy base. Despite being so critical, I did have a good time, it's a fine standalone and wraps almost everything up and I feel like it didn't really waste potential so whatever.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 11:09:46 No.2699500 Report

Quoted By: >>2699690 >>2700423 >>2701180 >>2729701

>>2699003
It's hard to explain, but I'll try. It's pretty much just something to do. Some people go plane watching or collect stamps. I collect trashy novels and observe shitty writing in its natural habitat.

I don't think the "so bad it's good" approach works for books. Or rather, that's maybe applicable for the FF genre overall, but not for examples like these, dredged up right up from the bottom portion of the already dubious quality genre.

Crappy prose just makes everything a chore to read, and usually that goes hand in hand with crappy content. It's rare to have a book that's really great in plot or character depth and that's completely shitty in writing; or vice versa. It's a bit odd, now that I'm thinking about it ... probably a problem of selective memory and perception? Who knows.

The other thing is that I like "weird" things done in an uncomplicated way, so that part maybe fits for the "so bad it's good" thing. Like some poly romance urban fantasy. Can't say I can think of many other examples, so that's worth a look. And I like portal fantasy too, so also worth a look. I mean, it's probably vaguely notable that I don't for example go on about the latest Radclyffe novel which no doubt is much better but equally doubtless is just the 37th time of Doctor A meeting Doctor B - no thanks, that's too "normal". Besides, people know Radclyffe, so not much point posting about it anyway.
And then FF authors aren't so great that I'd read something that's thematically not interesting; they can't prop up that sort of stuff with fantastic writing (casually dismissing an entire genre's worth of authors, well ...).

Of course, if something is just too crappy I'll drop it. Those novels here I at least finished in some way. I might skim or even skip parts, but I'll be reasonably confident that I didn't overlook some super-crucial all-changing ... thing. Although I can't think of a novel that starts out crappy and then suddenly gets awesome (but I'm sure there's one).

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Anonymous Mon 03 Sep 2018 15:45:43 No.2699690 Report

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>>2699500
Well we all appreciate your service to this tiny backwater general, nee-san. You're a credit to anons everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 06:04:49 No.2700423 Report

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>>2699500
Thanks. Honestly I'm relieved: I was worried that you were searching for good FF novels but were continuously disappointed.
>Besides, people know Radclyffe, so not much point posting about it anyway.
Your reviews are entertaining, so please don't hesitate to review well-known authors if you happen to read one of their books.
>And then FF authors aren't so great that I'd read something that's thematically not interesting
Sadly true. I mean, I guess one can only ask so much of a niche genre that probably isn't very profitable.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 06:33:10 No.2700436 Report

Quoted By: >>2700443 >>2700698 >>2700791 >>2701138

Did not notice the lit thread was up. Guess this could be the place where I work on my story for now.
I'm working on a action adventure, tragic, romantic love story that takes place in the fantasy or medieval type of place with dragons and fairies. The story follows the relationship of Hazel and Violate (Hazel is a witch) who barely uses magic and sticks to physical strength or even weapons, she loves to fight(a lot) and only cares for her grandmother who's been watching over her since infancy. And Violate is a kind and caring princess who fell under deep depression after a certain childhood friend tried to make sexual advances on her. But after she met and fell completely in love with "Hazel The Witch" she's gotten a completely new personality which goes off and on depending if Hazel is around. But despite her two faces her biggest struggles are being ready to take over the kingdom and being a proper queen like her mother...well sorta, her mother has some few issues of her own.
I basically told some of the plot in another thread in /u/ let me see if it's still around.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 06:37:32 No.2700439 Report

Quoted By: >>2700443 >>2700825

I can do a better illustration. The pic above me was just a practice. But here's some more practice images for the story.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 06:40:08 No.2700443 Report

Quoted By: >>2700449

>>2700436
>>2700439
>violate
lewd

Sounds like an interesting story I'd definitely read it and your artwork is pretty nice too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 06:45:42 No.2700449 Report

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>>2700443
>Violate
Oh shit!! It was supposed to be Violet. I guess auto correct must have switched it and I didn't notice at all. Grate, now I can't switch it so just pretend every Violate is Violet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 15:43:02 No.2700698 Report

Quoted By: >>2700832

>>2700436
Does it need to be tragic though? I feel like we have enough of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 18:21:47 No.2700791 Report

Quoted By: >>2703665

>>2700436
I'd like to hear more please

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 18:49:17 No.2700825 Report

Quoted By: >>2703665

>>2700439
I saw your posts in the idea thread and wow, I adore that piece of art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Sep 2018 18:55:36 No.2700832 Report

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>>2700698
Only counts as FF fantasy if at least one character is viciously raped, only to be tragically killed once they find some glimmer of joy in life again; and then everything has to end in complete and utter despair.

Ah, Monster Baru Cormorant will be so awesome ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 03:53:32 No.2701138 Report

Quoted By: >>2703665

>>2700436

Oooooh, that sounds intriguing, and I like your art too! Keep us appraised sis, I wanna read it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 05:24:25 No.2701180 Report

Quoted By: >>2701279

>>2698960
I'm a few chapters into the first book of The Secret Trilogy. Definitely wouldn't have picked this up if it weren't for your quote there. Thanks for the rec.

On a side note, is there a reduced, higher quality version of the /u/ rec chart that gets posted? I find that most of the books on there are pretty lack luster or downright bad.

>>2699500
>Some people go plane watching or collect stamps. I collect trashy novels and observe shitty writing in its natural habitat.

You made me chuckle. And even made a great point. Hopefully, in a decade or something, the lesfic genre will have evolved beyond unimaginative girl meets girl 250 page romances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 06:25:37 No.2701217 Report

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>>2693710
I'm leery of purchasing it. The first was such a bitter read, not because of the subject matter but the out of nowhere pairing at the end. I don't recall it actually ending either. If I do read it, I'll let you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 06:34:28 No.2701220 Report

Quoted By: >>2701225

So, when is the book 3 of Wisdom's Grave suppose to come out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 06:50:43 No.2701225 Report

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>>2701220
End of 2018, early 2019.

>>2698793
One of my all time favorite quotes comes from the Wisdom Grave’s trilogy. It is the culmination of two souls having met a thousand times meeting once more. The coven knight realizing the women before her is her worthy liege.

>Ask her to dance, Marie thought. Your entire life, this is the moment you’ve been waiting for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 06:53:12 No.2701226 Report

Quoted By: >>2701279

I've been reading the miseducation of Cameron post and it has me angry enough that I just have to stop for a while. Not that it isn't a great book so far but the injustice of it all is getting to me and I'm getting the feeling that that isn't going to be dealt with. That it won't end with them burning the camp to the ground or Cameron making such places illegal in her state or even convincing her abusers what they're doing is wrong, or her family. I feel like all these people who betrayed her are just going to skate by. I'm someone who generally scoffs at obvious pandering in ff novels but I could really use a bit of it right now. Going to be anoyed if two spirits dude is the last person she makes out with as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 11:09:54 No.2701279 Report

Quoted By: >>2701503 >>2701576 >>2701844

>>2701180
It's vaguely lodged into my head as just about the only FF romance I've read that is actually "romantic", with doing romantic things to woo each other instead of "look at her ass, I'm getting all wet!"
Well, some of that, too, maybe, and it's got its own set of issues, of course ... it's been a while.

Naw, chart is what it is. The approach was basically "alright, there's is this subgenre, what's the best/most fun I can find there?" - and if the novels I liked best are rubbish, but I didn't read anything better, well; then they are on it. It's more meant as an overview to be narrowed down instead of a careful selection. For that I'd go to some other top lists or if you are interested in literary quality (not so much this "pop culture stuff") maybe go through the literary award lists.

That being said, it's easy to sometimes lose perspective, so if there's any specific suggestions you (or anyone for that matter) has I'm listening. Just post it or give me a nudge on the writing Discord (like that comment about Felicia Fox' Vixen. See, I listen ...).

>>2701226
The worst novels are those where the protagonists are urged to reconcile and/or forgive their abusers, usually when they are dying.

Fuck that, seriously. I guess it's "healthy", but it's such a cliché I find myself cheering protagonists for turning down invitations for Sunday meals they aren't enthusiastic to go to just because they remind me that at least some of them know what the word "no" is meant for ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 17:40:12 No.2701441 Report

Quoted By: >>2706336

New Susan x Meagher book out - 'Wait for me'
I usually like her books. Could have done without the Fame one but theyre always nice and long and detailed. Fingers crossed for this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 19:23:02 No.2701503 Report

Quoted By: >>2701576 >>2702389

>>2701279
It is not "healthy". Forgiveness is only genuine and healthy when there's a real choice, not when you're expected to do it. Men are always sympathized when they kill or beat up the one who did them wrong, whereas women are always accused of being terrible if they do the same.

When will people realize that actions should not be judged in a vacuum, but must depend on the bigger context? In the current social context, it's extremely unhealthy for women to forgive abusers because it's a EXACTLY what women for millenia have been expected to do. TV is full of comedic or hurt/comfort shows of wives forgiving their cheating husbands, yet there's NONE of the vice versa - because men who forgave cheating wives are cucks, while women who don't forgive cheating men are petty witches. Accepting this practice by calling it "healthy" is encouraging this sexist double standard, persecuting women who are justifyingly pissed off at the douchebags who wronged them. Do you know how harmful it is to the victims to hear that kind of thinking? How harmful it is for the abusers to hear they're entitled to forgiveness?

I'm not sorry for this rant. My own sister-in-law had to suffered my abusive brother, yet years after their divorce, she still has to speak well of him and constantly felt like if she didn't, she would be a bad, unforgiving person. She broke down in tears when I explained to her my view because she never knew she has the right to be angry and that there's someone who is on her side on the matter. Why? Because FUCKING EVERYONE AROUND HER INCLUDING HER OWN MOTHER AND BEST FRIENDS KEEP GOING ON ABOUT FORGIVENESS, NEVER ONCE BEING INDIGNANT FOR HER SAKE, NEVER ONCE ACKNOWLEDGED HER RIGHT TO BE ANGRY, NEVER GIVING HER THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE LIKE "I WILL LOVE YOU NO MATTER HOW YOU DECIDE TO TREAT HIM". I despise that shit with a vengeance. Both the abusers and their apologists are disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 19:50:35 No.2701519 Report

Quoted By: >>2701598

>>2699331
link?

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Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 21:42:07 No.2701576 Report

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>>2701279
>>2701503
I wouldn't call what is happening in Cameron Post "healthy" but unfortunately it is realistic especially considering an abused child trying to still have a relationship with the family that sent her away to conversion therapy. So far my favourite moment of the last part of the book has been Cameron telling her aunt she won't be the maid of honour at her wedding. But that feels like the only time she's been able to meaningfully stand up for herself.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 22:38:03 No.2701598 Report

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>>2701519
It's on mobilism

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Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:43:53 No.2701844 Report

Quoted By: >>2708004

>>2701279
My, my you are a listener. Felicia Fox's Vixen is so hilariously bad. It reminds me of that terrible fanfiction, My Immortal, where you're caught wondering if someone wrote it as satire. Sample page attached, for your viewing pleasure.

I'll need your discord handle if you want a nudge.

These days, I'm caught between rereading old favorites and browsing summaries rather than venture out into the great lesbian unknown. Lesfics are a subgenre and when you try to make something that specific into your entire reading library, it gets bland pretty fast.

It's no one's fault but my own. Sometimes I yearn for a lesbian equivalent to 50 Shades, Harry Potter or Twilight, yet I might even dismiss such novels for being shallow and/or poorly written nowadays. Such is the consequence of growing up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 13:50:43 No.2701982 Report

Quoted By: >>2702127 >>2703474

I started writing a light swords & sorcery style fantasy novel which will eventually go full /u/lit/, but for now act 1 of 3 is complete.

Thing is, it's my first work and I suck at subjectively critiquing my own stuff. It's supposed to be lax, character-driven and detail-oriented, but I can't tell whether it's too much so.

I'd really appreciate some brutal feedback. If you're looking for something light to follow for the foreseeable future, give my thing a shot.

AO3 /works/15912519

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 15:41:30 No.2702032 Report

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Well, I've discovered a book called '' Aimée & Jaguar'' and I wonder if it's worth to read ? Is it any good ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 18:08:13 No.2702127 Report

Quoted By: >>2702188

>>2701982
I'm terrible at critique so I just wanted to say that I read the first chapter and enjoyed it a lot. There were a few slightly awkward word choices but its pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 19:38:31 No.2702188 Report

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>>2702127
Thanks, that's heartening to hear!

I felt pretty stiff writing the first few chapters but I feel like the story started flowing better after that.

Anything particular that struck you as especially awkward?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 20:43:11 No.2702250 Report

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finished Cameron Post. All in all I'd say it was a great book but I feel a bit cheated out of the story of what happened after the book's ending. I get that the perfect place for Cameron's journey as a person was reached but I was also very interested in the mechanics of what would happen next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Sep 2018 00:46:35 No.2702389 Report

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>>2701503
i cant remember ever seeing a cheating man shown as nothing more than an utter cunt, what world do you live in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Sep 2018 19:54:43 No.2702887 Report

Quoted By: >>2703012

So sort of off-topic but whats up with all the recent and upcoming YA books with titles like 'x of y and z'. Its obvious what really popular book series started the trend but it seems to have really gotten big in YA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Sep 2018 20:12:13 No.2702895 Report

Quoted By: >>2703495 >>2706365

I literally just now realized that you can go on xenafiction.net and read old webfics by all the mid-2000s authors you know and love. I found the early version of Backwards to Oregon on there, as well as those of Robin Alexander's first couple books. And I am now brutally aware that all of those ones I mentioned are Xena Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Sep 2018 23:19:13 No.2703012 Report

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>>2702887
Is that pretty much par for the course with YA? A lot of crap that bandwagons on popular trends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Sep 2018 15:22:19 No.2703474 Report

Quoted By: >>2703477

>>2701982
Decided to cut my story back to 3 chapters to lower the pick-up threshold, as well as keep it bumped better for a bit longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Sep 2018 15:23:26 No.2703477 Report

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>>2703474
Oh yeah, and will be posting a chapter a week from now on. Give it a read!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Sep 2018 15:58:25 No.2703495 Report

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>>2702895
Oh yeah. Although I started to notice it when I realized that there were a suspicious amount of books with a tall, dark haired butch and a short, blonde femme. Thankfully a lot of the characters don't bear too much resemblance to Xena or Gabrielle, although some authors are more obvious about it than others *cough* Melissa Good *cough*

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Anonymous Sat 08 Sep 2018 19:28:40 No.2703665 Report

Quoted By: >>2703669

>>2700791
>>2701138
>>2700825
Soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Sep 2018 19:33:03 No.2703669 Report

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>>2703665
Very cute, anon! Looking forward to seeing more.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 12:06:28 No.2704098 Report

Quoted By: >>2704142

We just finished making the illustrations for the 3rd and final story of our book.
I am proud of this one as it's my best work yet

Anyone wanna give our work a read?
>https://sigilworks.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/my-ballad/

It is currently being evaluated for publication. Hope we pass again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 12:57:25 No.2704110 Report

Quoted By: >>2704138

Can /u/ help me find books where one of the protagonists is a prostitute, escort, call girl etc? I have read Thirteen Hours by Meghan O'Brien and Strange Bedfellows by Q. Kelly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 13:34:02 No.2704138 Report

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>>2704110
If you liked Thirteen Hours then you could try The Client and The Night Off also by O'Brien. There is also Treasure by Rebekah Weatherspoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 13:37:30 No.2704142 Report

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>>2704098
The prose reads like it was written with a thesaurus.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 14:21:49 No.2704167 Report

Quoted By: >>2704289

Does anyone have a Merry Shannon book titled Sword of the Guardian?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 15:09:06 No.2704190 Report

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being the a drawfag sucks when the novel has a fandom of you, one other person and a shoe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Sep 2018 17:09:46 No.2704289 Report

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>>2704167
Here's the mobilism link
https://userscloud.com/fop93l7lp02b

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Sep 2018 03:08:03 No.2704855 Report

Quoted By: >>2705351 >>2705414 >>2705440 >>2706364

Where does everyone else go to discover/search for new books. I've basically only use these threads. goodreads is kind of alright, but they don't seem to have a good search engine if you're looking for multiple tags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Sep 2018 20:31:06 No.2705351 Report

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>>2704855
I usually check this thread on routine, but I also check:

- Amazon best sellers:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/7588789011/
- Mobilism search ff tags:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/7588789011/
- And my favorite authors' webpage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Sep 2018 22:30:20 No.2705414 Report

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>>2704855
For new books I use the search terms FF Lesbian LGBT GLBT on mobilism and the section lesbian books by publication date on amazon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Sep 2018 23:47:11 No.2705440 Report

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>>2704855
I mostly look at the shelves of a few goodreads users that read a lot and have good tags. I don't always trust their reviews but it gives me a good starting point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 00:37:28 No.2706079 Report

Quoted By: >>2706348 >>2706362

>>2693505
>>2693507
>>2693509
>>2693511
Newcomer here. This is very nice, but there's something I don't understand: considering there are people reporting their opinions itt, how come the rec list is mostly summaries with no comments, tags, or even a measure of how enjoyable it was? As it is, the few recommendations that do include an out of character commentary stand out, but for the rest you might as well stick them in a title list and a post-it saying to look it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 04:45:07 No.2706195 Report

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Being Hers - Anna Stone

Characters are flat and occupy your usual flavor of inexperienced lesbian who is reserved and hardworking, meeting the ever so rich and beautiful stoic ice queen a few years her senior.

Melanie and Vanessa have no real depth besides being their respective tropes, both have some trauma in the past that make it difficult to trust other. The only thing that sets this book apart is their bedroom activities, namely soft core BDSM.

Now, I have a philosophy with these kinds of novels. If you skimp on the character depth and world building, at least write the bedroom scenes as steamy as you can. Being Hers does neither, it’s frustratingly mediocre on both the plot and the porn. There were moments where the book could have been great but failed—because of awkward phrasing, story pacing, or dialog choices—to break that threshold.

6/10 read it if you’re horny or bored, but don’t expect any satisfaction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 09:42:47 No.2706259 Report

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What I'm really looking for are the books that have enjoyable lesbian characters in them, and romance is not the focus. Much like Baru Cormorant and unlike Thousand Names (because I disliked the setting, the side-characters, and the main character is some gary stu with a het romance, really not worth it). Anything recently crop up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 14:58:18 No.2706336 Report

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>>2701441
I really like some of her books, in fact my favorite /u/ book (Chief's Special) is from her but I have to say that I hated this new one.

I'm not even like some people here that can't take a hint of het in the book to drop it but in this one it was too much.

Both the protagonists talk about how they enjoyed sex with men despite being gay.
Theres explicit het-sex with one of the MCs involved ( I guess I should expect it since she is married), and it sucks. Theres more het action then /u/, so be advised if you are considering to read it.

It's really slow burn and things don't happen in the lesbian sense until 80%> of the book.

If it was by any other author I would'nt have finished it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 15:24:58 No.2706348 Report

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>>2706079
>or even a measure of how enjoyable it was?

I didn't enjoy quite a few of the books that are popular here. How does it help you to know that? Taste is subjective, go figure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 15:50:47 No.2706362 Report

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>>2706079
A google doc driven by an anonymous imageboard is probably a sub-par choice for keeping track of reviews/commentaries, compared to a website made with such specific functionality in mind (e.g. Goodreads).

>but for the rest you might as well stick them in a title list and a post-it saying to look it up.
You should be doing this regardless. Relying on the opinions of a select few individuals posting itt can be tricky. Considering it takes 5-15 hours to read a book, it's probably not a bad thing to spend a few minutes looking it up on other websites too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 15:56:01 No.2706364 Report

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>>2704855
Amazon, Ylva, Boldstrokes, Bella. Anymore, I generally purchase from authors I know I'll like and read excerpts from others that seem they may be interesting to decide if I want to take the plunge. Amazon unlimited is nice for that purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Sep 2018 15:58:03 No.2706365 Report

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>>2702895
I keep reading Devil Wears Prada and Once Upon a Time fanfiction in some of the May/December romances that have been released in the last year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Sep 2018 06:05:44 No.2706702 Report

Quoted By: >>2706923

https://iheartlesfic.com/mega-lesfic-sale-2/

Bit of a sale going on right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Sep 2018 16:03:57 No.2706923 Report

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>>2706702
Of the list, does anyone recommend anything? They look like dime novels, the lot of em.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 03:04:08 No.2707293 Report

Quoted By: >>2707295

>See anons recommending Wisdom's Grave series in previous threads
>Too much of an autist to miss out on worldbuilding and references from author's other works
>Spend the past two weeks marathoning all 17 books across the Daniel Faust, Harmony Black and Revanche Cycle series in the author's recommended reading order
>At long last, about to start Sworn to the Night

My body is ready

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 03:17:32 No.2707295 Report

Quoted By: >>2709063

>>2707293
Gotta say I’m excited to see your impression of Sworn to the Night since it was my first book by Schaefer. After having read The Revanche Cycle I found Marie and Nessa’s story even more impactful.

I’m jealous that you’re coming into the book with the knowledge of what they had gone through prior. You’ll definitely recognize and enjoy the references. Report back as soon as you can!

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Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 07:03:24 No.2707374 Report

Quoted By: >>2707382 >>2707698 >>2708096 >>2709795

I just clicked the publish button for a book I've been working on the past while. It takes place in the same setting as The Lady's Bride, if anyone's heard of that story. Here's a link to the Google doc for reference: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1neF16-4lLjOMwjaEXWg0vMmf7UO3cgMxQh7yUD9NTEA/edit
Should be accessible with no fuss. Please let me know if it isn't.

This one's called Dagny's Mother and follows some new characters a few decades following the events of the previous story (I intended it to be able to stand on its own, so it doesn't require having read the last book, but your experience may differ). I haven't got much else to add, other than maybe its 'back-of-the-book-blurb' for those interested.

(Blurb follows)
Slayer Horsun is not a kind woman. She is a mercenary sanctioned by the Lady’s cruel magicks; a sellsword whose blade bends to the fattest coin purse. Her cruelty is bartered between tongues and smuggled across borders; a callousness rumoured able to stain the very sky black with her crimes. Ruthless killer. Savage monster. Loving mother.
Her daughter is the only family she has left, and there is nothing she wouldn’t do for her. But Dagny is nothing like her. She knows nothing of the desperate measures taken to keep her safe. Or else she is ignorant, unwilling to see the harshness of the world’s true face.
Both have become comfortable. Complacent in their ways. They do not see the treachery afoot; they hardly see past one another.
(End of blurb)

I lurk on /u/ much more than I post, but maybe I can answer some questions if you guys are interested in self-publishing. Or about the book(s).

Also, here's the cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 07:28:42 No.2707382 Report

Quoted By: >>2707698

>>2707374
Forgot to include the store link for Dagny's Mother, for those of you interested.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07HC1T224/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1536910071&sr=1-1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 20:11:39 No.2707637 Report

Quoted By: >>2707687

What are some shamelessly sexy books with sexy lesbians doing sexy things and getting mixed up in sexy drama?

Pls no First Person POV

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 21:52:19 No.2707687 Report

Quoted By: >>2707732

>>2707637
Just watch porn dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Sep 2018 22:23:36 No.2707698 Report

Quoted By: >>2707728

>>2707374
>>2707382
Is this mother daughter incest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 00:04:17 No.2707728 Report

Quoted By: >>2707825

>>2707698
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 00:20:54 No.2707732 Report

Quoted By:

>>2707687
>3dpd

yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 01:40:36 No.2707777 Report

Quoted By: >>2707781 >>2707827

I remember in early 2018 someone here posted a good review about a ballét yuri story. It was too new so no ebook was available at the usual sources. I thought I had it bookmarked but can't find it anymore. Do any of you by chance know what book I am talking about? I think released January or February 2018.

I have made many great experiences with ballét related yuri in the past so I want to give that book a try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 02:00:04 No.2707781 Report

Quoted By: >>2707822

>>2707777
Is it The Music and The Mirror by Lola Keeley?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 03:34:27 No.2707822 Report

Quoted By: >>2707827

>>2707781
When I looked for it myself I actually saw this one on goodreads but did not think that's the one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 03:40:24 No.2707825 Report

Quoted By:

>>2707728
Disappointed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 03:44:37 No.2707827 Report

Quoted By: >>2707995

>>2707822
>>2707777
Nevermind, I found it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 09:01:32 No.2707995 Report

Quoted By:

>>2707827
Tell the rest of the class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 09:31:14 No.2708004 Report

Quoted By: >>2709558

>>2701844
"Oops." Sorry, a little vacation slipped my mind when posting here. Drop by /u/ write if you're around: https://discord.gg/FFmz7X8 (it's Pyo).

Of course, vacationing usually also means reading, but didn't really have anything much this time. Just re-read Rhapsody of Blood series (release the 4th as ebook already!!!1111); and then even had to resort to het (Bujold's Cordelia's Honor, which was kinda bleh).

Still ...

Erik Schubach - Unchosen
> I said as I wrapped an arm around her shoulder and we supported each other up the steps, “Hey Vi.”
Is it even possible to make this sentence any clunkier than it is? Really, I tried, but the prose just annoyed me too much to stick through the novel. Meh.

T. Poinsett - Lourmedor
This at least was readable. It's YA-ish fantasy, with the heroine living in some (women-only?) village, meeting a love interest, stuff happening ... then it ends nowhere, because it's book 1 in the series. The setting seems interesting and all, but it's so "thinly" done, barely any world building; and I didn't like either the heroine or love interest too much. Might or might not read a sequel, we'll see.

M. Heartstrom - La Lividum
Well, I've just started reading it, but - so there was "Along Came Cyrene", and the author stated that she wanted to restart the series in a more polished fashion, which sounded reasonable to me. The idea was good, but the prose and proofreading and pacing not so much, and I appreciate an author who wants to improve their work.

But I somehow wasn't expecting to get exactly the same book again; just with a different title. I think it's a bit cleaned up, but so far (just from memory) I couldn't say I spotted any major differences. So, yeah, that's disappointing. Maybe it'll "branch off" at some point, but I doubt it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 13:23:41 No.2708095 Report

Quoted By: >>2708111 >>2708149 >>2708278 >>2709067

Any books that follow one protagonist through the years and different relationships? Something like Cameron Post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 13:32:02 No.2708096 Report

Quoted By: >>2708107 >>2708390 >>2708397

>>2707374
>Slayer

Please don't do this. Ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 14:26:27 No.2708107 Report

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>>2708096
Maybe her parents were big fans of heavy metal. I think I would've gone with Anthrax, personally. And if it's her job title, then it's painfully cliche, and hopefully her business cards make people cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 14:35:15 No.2708111 Report

Quoted By:

>>2708095
The only one I can think about is Taking the Long Way by Lily R. Mason but in this one it's mostly just one relationship over the years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 16:04:24 No.2708149 Report

Quoted By:

>>2708095
>different relationships

Eww

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 19:07:54 No.2708278 Report

Quoted By:

>>2708095
Tipping the Velvet is sort of like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 22:22:44 No.2708390 Report

Quoted By:

>>2708096
>>>2708096
>Not using the Araki/Ishiwatari method of naming your characters

Anon, that's straight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Sep 2018 22:33:36 No.2708397 Report

Quoted By:

>>2708096
>Not using the Araki/Ishiwatari method of naming characters

That is fucking straight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Sep 2018 20:10:09 No.2709063 Report

Quoted By: >>2709084 >>2709472 >>2709702

>>2707295
Just finished Sworn to the Night and gotta say it was a really satisfying read, imo totally worth autistically marathoning all of the other books. Of course, seeing Nessa and Marie get another chance and defying their cycle was awesome, but I also enjoyed how the dynamic of the new incarnations was it's own thing. Of course it's still murder and mayhem with dubious morality, but it's also dinner and music over wine and less mindbreak. Revanche Nessa was amazingly ruthless but too sadistic to Marie imo Very interested to see their dynamic develop in Detonation Boulevard.

Also as side a note, the book was also super satisfying because it starts threading together all of the arcs and characters from the other books into the 'story/cycle' meta-plotline. So the payoff from reading the other books felt huge - I've now got a good sense of not only how Nessa and Marie fit into the 'cycle' plot-line but also Daniel, Harmony, Carolyn, Alton Roth etc. I was honestly expecting a few brief cameos (which is what happens in other books) not for it to be packed with references, other character POV chapters and lore development for other books.

Great book, 10/10 complicated salads. Off to read Detonation Boulevard now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Sep 2018 20:16:56 No.2709067 Report

Quoted By:

>>2708095
I thought about whether I can think of any novel that features more than at worst two relationships, and the only one I could come up with I don't remember the precise title of - something like "The Seven Wives of ..." Well. Alas, I got no clue what she was called, which is kinda the critical thing to remember. Jenny? Jennifer?

Wasn't good anyway, but I think that's the record for nominal relationships per stand-alone novel I remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Sep 2018 20:37:46 No.2709084 Report

Quoted By: >>2709224

>>2709063
I'm pretty tempted to follow your autistic lead here nee-san. What was it you said, 17 novels? You'll all probably hear back from me in like 2 or 3 months

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Sep 2018 22:38:10 No.2709224 Report

Quoted By: >>2709236 >>2709702

>>2709084
Yeah I think it's 9 Daniel Faust books, 4 Harmony Black books, and 4 Revanche books outside of Wisdom's Grave, although they are all very light, quick reads so it's not such a heavy undertaking reading-wise.

I will say however that your YMMV depending on how much you enjoy the UF genre, heist/caper plots, non-/u/ and 1st person perspective.For maximum autism the author's website has a recommended read order

Marie/Nessa is still the best thing the author has written though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Sep 2018 22:51:07 No.2709236 Report

Quoted By:

>>2709224
Mostly the only UF stuff I've read has been contemporary romance fusion, but as long as it's not also YA I'll be fine. As for non-/u/, it's non optimal but I don't mind it. Especially if it leads up to satisfying NON-non-/u/

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Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 04:05:22 No.2709472 Report

Quoted By: >>2709558 >>2709700 >>2709702 >>2709979 >>2710960

>>2709063
Agreed!

Although, I quite enjoyed the mindbreak. I read The Revanche Cycle after the Wisdom Grave's two books so the context was different; they're soulmates. Of course Nessa was going to break Mari and own her. Nessa of the Revanche Cycle is far crueler than her current reincarnation, and it was sweet seeing a woman who cared for nothing but nature slowly fall in love with Mari.

That declaration at the end of The Revanche Cycle? Delicious writing. When Nessa asks Mari to kill her because she doesn't want to burn. Legendary.

Sworn to the Night is definitely much more introductory to Schaefer's world--I suspect you'll enjoy Detonation Boulevard even more now that you're invested in the entire universe having read all of his books.

Want to know some real autism? Being the only drawfag around and sketching out the witch and her knight on my free time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 08:43:25 No.2709558 Report

Quoted By:

>>2709472
Nice art!

>>2708004
>M. Heartstrom - La Lividum
Alright; done with this, nothing to see here. If there's differences in content, it's nothing that stood out to me. Which might or might not mean something. Still, if you're in the mood for some dark-ish urban-ish fantasy and haven't read the first version, obviously, pick this one. It's just a bit more polished.

TB Markinson - The Chosen One
Actually, there's a sequel out to this one, but I just couldn't remember whether I had read this or not. With no evidence that I actually had, I decided to give this a try before thinking about the sequel ...

a) Horrendous insta attraction. I've said this before, but for the love of everything unholy don't describe the heroine wetting her panties the first time she spots her love interest! It's just, urk.

b) Nobody ever seems to mention this in reviews, but TBM novels somehow all have the heroine being kinda bullied or pushed around by her friends; not in this abusive Roseau sort of way but just enough to make me go "no, I don't like these people". This has the same problem.

c) It overall felt chaotic. On a certain level I can appreciate that it tried to be a bit more than a romance, but then, the other things it did weren't that great either ...
... which leads into the start of the sequel, which felt the same to me. Just not well structured or anything. So I didn't bother finishing that one.

Mia Archer - Cursed Mage
A short little story about an evil mage cursing the one prophesied to end her. Not much is yet revealed; it's more like an introduction into things. But I don't think the author nailed any of the characters; even for their level of writing this seemed weak to me. Potentially fun idea, bad execution (how often I've though that I don't even know anymore).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 09:56:18 No.2709573 Report

Quoted By:

>>Rule by Ellen Goodlet

When the king's son dies and he finds out he is dying, he rounds up his three bastard daughters from different backgrounds to train them and decide which one will inherit the throne. Unfortunately all three of them have a secret that could get them executed and as it turns out someone sends a message that they know those secrets.

The three girl are co-protagonists each having their own expertise. The tough Romani girl was not my favourite. Constantly rude and argumentative and always has something to prove. Her secret is not that interesting and her romance subplot is an awful het love triangle. The maid sister I actually like. She's a scheming socialite and she's often resourceful and practical. Romance is a boring "dashing rogue betrayed me but he says he loves me" deal and I pray that it ends with her just dumping his ass.

The third sister is shy and meek but I do think that she grows to into the bookish researching one and she is pretty resourceful. Her secret is so ridiculous that I laughed and its even better when coupled with her romance. She quickly falls for her new stepmother (the queen is about the protagonists' age) when she gets to the palace and I actually did like it though I am obviously biased. In ensemble stories where one is a lesbian I usually expect her to be the least important character but I was kinda impressed that they shared screentime and plot relevance evenly.

The book is so focused on the blackmail plot it fails to develop most of the cast or the world very well and it ends in a frustrating cliffhanger that invalidates much of this book. Shame because the concept sans blackmail would have been interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 15:19:27 No.2709700 Report

Quoted By:

>>2709472
How many books in the series total?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 15:30:11 No.2709702 Report

Quoted By: >>2709979

>>2709063
>>2709224
>>2709472
Can any one of you nee-sans upload all books (from all series)? A lot of mobilism's links are dead or lead to a registration with a credit card (or just don't show captchas) or have meshed all books into one (Revanche cycle).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 17:36:10 No.2709768 Report

Quoted By:

Last The One Who Eats Monsters update said that October is probably the earliest the author can manage.

Also, if anyone cares, a sequel to the "grimdark" novella The Armored Saint is out tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 18:53:56 No.2709795 Report

Quoted By: >>2709832 >>2709841

>>2707374
Well fuck it I am interested, was there any surprises that came up when you decided to publish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 20:18:06 No.2709832 Report

Quoted By: >>2709841

>>2709795
Nothing out of the ordinary. Amazon pretty much holds your hand through the entire process. If you're doing an ebook only release, there's even less to worry about. If you're also doing a physical release, you have to put a bit more elbow grease into it since you have to prep a separate word document (complete with a numbered table of contents, as opposed to the ebook's hyperlinks). Not to mention the little finagling you have to do if you prepped a wraparound cover art as opposed to the Cover Creator tool Amazon lets you use.

One thing I would definitely recommend, if you decide to self-publish, is to know pretty well what you're willing to spend (in terms of time and money) trying to market the book. Ultimately, what I've done so far has been about as small-scale as it gets, so there are definitely better authors to learn from in the /u/lit/ threads alone.

If you're interested in self-publishing, you should honestly just go for it. You'll probably be pleasantly surprised with the success of your story. Or devastated, if it doesn't really pan out. All I can say on that is so long as writing is your hobby, and not your livelihood, you have nothing to lose. Probably.

Hopefully that gives you an idea of what to expect. If you have anything else to ask, fire away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Sep 2018 20:49:58 No.2709841 Report

Quoted By:

>>2709795
>>2709832
One thing I should add is that if you're looking for proofreaders or help with editing, I had plenty of help from the /u/ discord this time around: https://discord.gg/FFmz7X8

I also have the full version of Dagny's Mother available there under the #critique section. Probably should have mentioned that earlier. Things got a little hectic trying to coordinate stuff post-release, even at this small of a scale.

If anyone decides to take a look at the story, I'd be grateful for feedback I could use when I (eventually) write the next story. Scathing criticisms and all.

For those of you less inclined to visit the discord, you can find the same thing here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gx37FuMIAUheZ3J-1bpxIcGHdCT_4quA-TvSCHXZMu4/edit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Sep 2018 02:11:25 No.2709979 Report

Quoted By: >>2709995 >>2710690

>>2709702
You okay with mobi/azw3 formats?

>>2709472
Agreed, I find Nessa's sadism strangely fascinating, especially combined with her love for Marie. I guess my main objection to the mindbreak was because it was a repeat of the cycle of Marie getting broken/brainwashed by various people projecting their desires onto her, from Dante to her mentor to Nessa. Even though with Nessa Marie got what she always wanted (family, liege, purpose etc), the fact that she had to be so fully manipulated into that position (did Nessa ever admit to Marie that she just straight up murdered her mentor so she could have her? I can't remember) makes the result a little bit hollow imo. Not to mention it was completely unnecessary, Marie was easily Nessa's by then.. However in retrospect it makes current Nessa/Marie that much more special, since Marie is demonstrably a lot more spirited and willing this time around. Nessa clearly gets a kick out of it too
Also that is some great art, saved!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Sep 2018 03:26:26 No.2709995 Report

Quoted By: >>2710443

>>2709979
If there are no .epub, then yeah. I'm fine with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Sep 2018 19:34:04 No.2710443 Report

Quoted By: >>2710454

>>2709995
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/JByR6SmX/file.html

Here you go nee-san. That's everything except Faust 8: Neon Boneyard which wouldn't work for some reason. I'll try re-uploading it for you if you get that far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Sep 2018 20:00:57 No.2710454 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710443
Thanks! Gonna be a while probably, so we'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Sep 2018 20:21:35 No.2710461 Report

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Barbara Wilson - Cassandra Reilly
Low-key mystery series featuring a globe-traveling translator.

The mysteries aren't anything too special; more of a series of misunderstandings and wild coincidences involving quirky characters in various locations around (mostly) Europe.

What I liked was the slight cynicism of the heroine; a certain dry outlook on things, and the absence of romance. I mean, usually there was someone (or someones) around she wouldn't have minded getting in bed with, but she had no romantic aspirations beyond that (and often nothing happened).

Also, the books have this certain level of substance shitty A-meets-B novels just don't have. When it talks about music in Venice, you get actual and plausible invented information on the topic. When she's in Transylvania, it talks about complex relationship between Hungary and Romania and what else went on there. And so on. It's not like the novels where they claim that somebody is this or that and then there's never anything that'd require any actual knowledge or research on it.

Hadn't really thought about that aspect much before, but somehow it made a difference here.

Still, it's nothing too special. Something to read that doesn't annoy but doesn't really do anything much else either.

Jenna Rae - The Third Eye
Similar, but more "classic" in that it's one case worked by a police officer, who just broke up with her ex over cheating. Somebody's killed, she doesn't believe the case should be closed, etc.

Overall a solid novel I have no big gripes with. The (very small) romance felt unnecessary; tagged on. Fine. No big deal. The bad guys were too obvious. Alright, but you never can be quite sure it's not a red herring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 00:06:55 No.2710584 Report

Quoted By: >>2710666 >>2710673

Is the third book in the Soho Loft series, Ready or Not, worth reading?

I read Kiss the Girl and Just Three Words and enjoyed both, but I wasn't too fond of the character that the third book is about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 02:29:45 No.2710666 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710584
I found Samantha and Hunter's romance to be the best of the series so take this with a grain of biased salt. Mallory's romance was the most contrived and I think it leaned too hard on the fact that previous readers would read it for Jessica/Brooks and Hunter/Sam.

Simply put, Mallory didn't need a book for herself. Of the cast, she was always the level headed and most anal retentive of the bunch; the stable rock in a sea of quirky humor and melodrama. I liked that about her. She didn't need to be dismantled and given a love story as well.

IMHO, skip it unless you've got nothing else to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 02:35:15 No.2710673 Report

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>>2710584
I don't see why not. Since it's a trilogy and the last book. But then, I don't particularly dislike Mallory myself. Heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 02:55:20 No.2710690 Report

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>>2709979
No, Nessa never did tell Mari that she murdered Wener. It's why their current reincarnation feels more true to character; Nessa admits she staged Richard's death. I think Marie is secretly thankful for it.

From a narrative standpoint, Nessa needed the cloak and dagger was because Mari had been brainwashed and lied to by so many other people. There was only one way to undo that--she needed to be broken again, to be shown that the "justice" she knew was made by a system that left Mari with dead parents, a scarred child and solider of war.

I would go so far as to say Nessa is the only character to offer Mari any truth in The Revanche Cycle. She's certainly the only character that offers Mari any choice. Poor Mari had been brainwashed and drugged by Wener, and before him was Veronca.

You're right to say that is does feel hollow...the death of Wener always weighed at the back of my mind. After a lot of thought, I came to the conclusion that it wouldn't have mattered if Mari knew or not. She was Nessa's the moment they met and Nessa afforded Mari a level of respect and consent that no one else had ever done before. It wasn't perfect, but it was theirs.

15/10 complicated salads

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Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 11:45:40 No.2710960 Report

Quoted By: >>2714085 >>2727669

>>2709472
Another drawfag yay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 14:28:35 No.2711061 Report

Quoted By:

Off-topic, but I just want to thank you onee-sans for being a continual bastion of relative civility and comfort in a time when every other board I visit and every other general I hang out in is turning into an autistic diarrhea explosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Sep 2018 17:35:25 No.2711198 Report

Quoted By:

has anyone read good fanfiction recently?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Sep 2018 00:30:25 No.2712132 Report

Quoted By:

>May Dawney - Survival Instincts
Finished it so that already means something. Post apocalyptic survival, that's nice too. Way too few of them. Otherwise it's nothing special. Lonely woman wanderer comes across a group. They accuse her of murder. So she goes out with a woman from the settlement to prove her innocence. Truth is she wants to run away at the first opportunity but you already know what happens with the women.

The people are all kinda incompetent and stupid. Even the animals are. Animals very rarely attack humans, especially smart ones like mammals. That's because there's a high chance of dying. If you go for a ~50% chance of dying to feed yourself for a couple of days, your species is going extinct. Turn your brain off while reading and you will be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Sep 2018 00:58:45 No.2712142 Report

Quoted By: >>2712577

>hey let's write a lesbian book
>hmm there is something missing
>add some het rape here
>make one of them a divorced mother
>hmm still not enough het in my lesbian book
>we need some more boyfriends and rape
Why? No wonder F/F is so unpopular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Sep 2018 21:52:29 No.2712577 Report

Quoted By:

>>2712142
I'm with you about the rape, but in general I think complaining about any old het is a quick road to purefaggotry. I for one love the divorced mom route. I still fondly remember that one by Robin Alexander that I forget the name of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 22:07:41 No.2714081 Report

Quoted By: >>2714572 >>2715027 >>2715868

Last I'll mention of it, since its off topic, but these Daniel Faust books are straight up masculine Mary sue power fantasies. Not that I'm complaining, since this entire general is dedicated to female romance fantasies (often including power fantasies as part of the package). Its just been a long time since I've read on this side of the road. Kinda nice to sample the other brand of trash once in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 22:19:47 No.2714085 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710960
That's really nice art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Sep 2018 09:02:49 No.2714572 Report

Quoted By: >>2715027

>>2714081
>Daniel Faust books
How much will I lose if I skip them and go straight to feminine Mary Sue power fantasies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Sep 2018 19:55:42 No.2715027 Report

Quoted By: >>2715038

>>2714081
I actually thought that Daniel was pretty mild as a male protag when compared to other UF male mary sue power fantasies, but maybe thats because I like trickster characters who barely scrape by.

>>2714572
Some backstory, worldbuilding and setup for the plot threads in the Harmony and Nessa/Marie books, but nothing major. Each series is pretty self-contained and other anons have had no trouble jumping straight to the Nessa/Marie books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Sep 2018 20:13:35 No.2715038 Report

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>>2715027
I was thinking more the Cloud Strife variant of Mary sue: the punished, grizzled outsider anti-hero with a dark past but a heart of gold, who is almost universally loved, feared, and/or respected by a large and colorful cast of characters.

But I'll definitely agree that his action scenes are fuckin great. He's always got some legitimately clever trick up his sleeve, but despite that you never know what kind of curveballs he'll be thrown or how fucked up he'll get.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Sep 2018 21:15:30 No.2715072 Report

Quoted By: >>2715214

Not purely /u/ material, just great sci-fi, but really liked Yelen-Marta relationship. The diary is full of tragic feels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Sep 2018 01:54:16 No.2715214 Report

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>>2715072
>sci-fi murder mystery
Nice, will be picking this right up. I'm in the mood for tragic feels so this is perfect timing right before the new Baru book

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Sep 2018 01:56:33 No.2715217 Report

Quoted By:

What's a series similar to Garoul?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Sep 2018 09:10:15 No.2715411 Report

Quoted By:

I'm in the middle of listening to the Revanche Cycle book 3 of 4. Is it implied that Veruca harbored feelings for Marie but kept them hidden to avoid exposing herself? I wasn't sure if that was what was hinted at during the talk between her and Nessa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Sep 2018 12:44:12 No.2715501 Report

Quoted By: >>2715580

Anyone got some more recommendations for books with characters like Nessa and Marie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Sep 2018 16:15:19 No.2715580 Report

Quoted By: >>2716416 >>2736472

>>2715501
It's tough thinking up a good fit. If I broke Nessa x Marie up, and think about what makes them stand out, I'd say it's: an action-adventure background, with an anti-heroine lead who grooms a second heroine who is looking for a purpose into a D/s relationship.

So.

A fantasy adventure with D/s-ish romance mixed up with duty/worship:
JL Forrest - Requies Dawn

D/s urban fantasy with anti-heroic lead and a heroic sub:
Merciella Heartstorm - La Lividum

Fantasy adventure with a mistress - slave romance:
Kierstin Cherry - Absent in Absinthe
Betty Cross - Mistress of The Topaz

Heroine being groomed by evil love interest to become her sub/lover:
Ordinarily evil version:
Coral de Anne - Recious
Completely bonkers fucked up version:
Jacquotte F Kline - Deep Down Inside Trilogy / Diary of a Young Succubus

The YA version of "scary romance" with an anti-heroine:
Casey Matthews - The One Who Eats Monsters (come on sequel, don't disappoint!)

There's of course plenty of ordinary D/s FF romances, like Finding Love Down Under. But that's already quite different I'd say. Also, plenty of Roseau shit in some way fits the bill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Sep 2018 22:42:26 No.2715868 Report

Quoted By:

>>2714081
So what's the /u/ version of those garbage litRPG/"space harem erotica" books anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Sep 2018 18:01:46 No.2716416 Report

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>>2715580
Damn, Oneesama, you know your trashy lesbian books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 10:00:18 No.2717541 Report

Quoted By: >>2717741 >>2717782

Is it possible to find literature with lesbian rape and zero het?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 16:16:48 No.2717741 Report

Quoted By:

>>2717541
Probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 16:51:17 No.2717782 Report

Quoted By: >>2717783

>>2717541
They aren't the greatest novels around but Samantha Sabian's books have a few rapey moments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 16:53:14 No.2717783 Report

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>>2717782
"A few". The last one is literally exclusively about rape.

But anyway, it's of course a nonsensical question. There's no type of porn that doesn't exist, and this isn't nearly outrageous enough to be rare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:40:21 No.2719002 Report

Quoted By: >>2719064 >>2719743 >>2719767

What's the Finnegan's Wake of u/lit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 23:25:54 No.2719064 Report

Quoted By:

>>2719002
Yuri about river personifications?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 18:54:45 No.2719743 Report

Quoted By:

>>2719002
Fucking incomprehensible nonsense that's only remembered because it was written by a previously sane author?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 19:34:03 No.2719767 Report

Quoted By:

>>2719002
How could you miss the obvious lesbian themes in Finnegans Wake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Oct 2018 09:54:23 No.2720206 Report

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Blythe Rippon - Benched
In light of recent political events I thought I'd read something "political", but the only one I could come up with that really fit was this two novel series - about a lesbian Supreme Court judge - and I had read that before.

This kind of novel you just can't read twice; or at least I can't. I don't think it's all that bad or anything, but, hum. Not great either, and, really, if these novels are predictable the first time, even with only a vague memory of reading them the second time is just ...

Jane Retzig - The Wrong Woman
One of those "I appreciate you tried but unfortunately you weren't good enough" sort of novels. It's A meets B, alright, but then A gets accused of murder; framed, really, and ends up in jail. And then it switches to other characters trying to clear that up.

So the romantic couple, which you might think would be the main characters, seeing as its all about them the first 15-25% or so, practically disappear from the story. Until the very end, when everything is cleared up. The same's true for other characters; some just pop up in a prominent role and then suddenly are gone.
There's also a really annoying sub-plot-thing where very nearly every character is paired up with their own new love interest. No matter whether it adds anything to the story or nothing at all. Urk.

The mystery isn't particularly plausible done; I don't think the author did a lot of research on police procedures and such. Or if she did she didn't care to demonstrate that she did.

Overall too choppy and random to be any good. But, as mentioned, the idea was kinda nice. Maybe with strict editing ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Oct 2018 20:47:47 No.2722260 Report

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Jody Klaire - In Fashion
Oh, look, a fashion-themed romance, how rare ...

But Klaire is a competent enough author and this is a bit different, so I felt it was worth reading. And despite some more trope-ish aspects, like the insta-attraction, and the frustrating "but she's not a lesbian!" misunderstanding that goes on for a bit it was quirky enough to be entertaining.

Except for the end. I actually didn't bother reading the last ... five or so pages. It was just - an explosion of romance cheese. No thanks. The scenario was ridiculous enough, but then it just went rainbows and unicorns. Which, I feel, didn't fit the plot and characters at all.

Anyway, more or less the usual fare.

SD Simper - The Sting of Victory
Interesting (dark-ish) fantasy novel. It's not the usual ill-defined pseudo-European setting, but a more "mixed" one. The heroine is a young witch with a traumatic past that drove her to vegetarianism.
Being forced into cannibalism by your mother might do that sort of thing to you. Butchering baby brothers probably also is not great for your mental health.

Despite that she comes across kinda innocent and naive, so it reads a bit YA-ish - a positive here, I thought. However, she falls in a love with an undead seductress, and, huh. "Adult stuff" happens. So good contrasts.

I liked it quite a bit; some creative ideas and interesting characters. However, I felt at ... maybe 2/3 or so the pace kinda collapsed. Possibly because it's number one in a series, and doesn't resolve too much, and, yes, not having a very positive end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Oct 2018 05:34:57 No.2722469 Report

Quoted By: >>2722704

Anyone know any books were a brother and sister fall for the same woman? I have already read Denial. Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Oct 2018 05:36:12 No.2722470 Report

Quoted By: >>2722907

I drunk purchased the entire series of Xena on out-of-print collectors edition DVDs, and I've been watching a ton of the included interviews and commentaries, where Lucy and Renee can't shut up about how fucking gay the show is.

What are your favorite books about actors playing lesbian characters, but actually falling for each other?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Oct 2018 14:04:06 No.2722704 Report

Quoted By:

>>2722469
No One Needs to Know by Amanda Grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Oct 2018 17:57:29 No.2722907 Report

Quoted By:

>>2722470
Undoubtedly And Playing the Role of Herself by K.E. Lane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Oct 2018 17:44:17 No.2724210 Report

Quoted By: >>2724734

anyone got some recommendations for books with polygamy, preferably fantasy or sci-fi?

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Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 05:32:44 No.2724513 Report

Quoted By: >>2724672 >>2724747

Heyyy just a anon from the /sffg/ thread over in /lit/. As a bit of a heads up, Aliette de Bodard has a f/f novella coming out in a week called "In the Vanishers’ Palace", it's a take on the ol' beauty and the beast story. I don't read much /u/ related stuff but I like her scifi stories so I thought you all might like to know about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 14:54:13 No.2724672 Report

Quoted By:

>>2724513
>beauty and the beast
Oh I'm game. The Disney classic was my childhood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 16:48:18 No.2724734 Report

Quoted By:

>>2724210
Bitfrost by Sam Farren
One of the characters is non-binary and identifies as a lesbian.

The Dragonoak trilogy by Sam Farren
the ending suggests a polygamous relationship with a non-binary character

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 17:09:05 No.2724744 Report

Quoted By: >>2724978

Does anyone have epub to The Secret Pond by Gerri Hill? Please and thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 17:13:50 No.2724747 Report

Quoted By:

>>2724513
I don't know her work but the cover looks nice so I'll probably try it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 20:36:05 No.2724929 Report

Quoted By: >>2724935

Does anyone know of any good romance books with cute subby characters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 20:42:10 No.2724935 Report

Quoted By: >>2724936

>>2724929
Subby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 20:44:36 No.2724936 Report

Quoted By: >>2724969

>>2724935
As in, submissive, but in an adorable way

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 22:34:41 No.2724969 Report

Quoted By: >>2725210

>>2724936
La Lividum fits the bill

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Oct 2018 22:53:59 No.2724978 Report

Quoted By: >>2725509 >>2725559

>>2724744
Mobilism link: https://douploads.com/y1g176fj22ie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 06:44:18 No.2725210 Report

Quoted By: >>2725307 >>2725450

>>2724969
Thanks! You wouldn't happen to have a download link would you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 11:24:35 No.2725307 Report

Quoted By:

>>2725210
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=2757257&hilit=La+Lividum

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 16:05:30 No.2725450 Report

Quoted By: >>2725453

>>2725210
The Phoenix Empress by K Arsenault Rivera.
Tiger's Daughter 2. Shefali returns from her exile to find that her wife has severe PTSD and the empire is falling apart.

Though I loved the first book I absolutely understand that it was not an easy book to like. The LI was obnoxious the writing style was weird and it was kinda slow especially for a book about demon slaying lesbian princesses. However, I fell in love with the cast, and was captivated by the mid-story turn and it was just what I wanted more of in F/F fantasy, epic and important.

The first half of the book is pretty plot light, instead focusing on the characters and how their lives and world changed. Its a bit drawn out and angsty but its good with lots of small tidbits about the past and interesting direction. Then around 30% of the second half is a long flashback about Shizuka (the love interest) and I loved it. One battle is an absolute fulfillment of the promise of these books and was absolutely awesome. Shizuka is a completely changed character in this book due to her experiences and she is far more sympathetic and the morose and regretful tone of the story really comes through.

And then for around 20% at the end the book hits starts flailing around as it tries to explain its cosmology (is that the right word?) in a kinda clumsy, expositiony way and then clumsily sets up the last book. The gods were actually never really explained fully in the first book so it was needed as the main characters are gods (this one goes much more into that as the girls explore their powers much more here) but the explanation given kinda makes things a bit smaller and less special than it initially looked like. Also my favorite character, Shefali's mum wasn't in the book and thats disappointing. I think the author also cut down on the poetic language a bit and I liked that but YMMV.

Overall I need to think more about it but I loved this one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 16:08:26 No.2725453 Report

Quoted By:

>>2725450
And I did not mean to quote

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Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 16:25:27 No.2725459 Report

Quoted By: >>2725508 >>2725538 >>2725565

So, my ebook just died. Fucking disgusting easily destroyed connectors.
Is the Paperwhite still the best choice? Never really wanted a Kindle, but since I've got to get a new one....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 17:48:56 No.2725508 Report

Quoted By:

>>2725459
I just use my android

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 17:50:40 No.2725509 Report

Quoted By: >>2725565

>>2724978
Is the link not dead? I saw this on mobilism, but I can't seem so download it so I thought it was dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 18:45:57 No.2725538 Report

Quoted By:

>>2725459
I got my paperwhite when they first came out (2012? 2013?), have used it pretty much everyday since and its still working fine. If you don't mind having to convert the odd epub into mobi or azw I'd say go for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 19:18:49 No.2725559 Report

Quoted By:

>>2724978
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Oct 2018 19:38:33 No.2725565 Report

Quoted By:

>>2725509
I could download it from that link, but just in case I uploaded it in zippyshare:
https://www100.zippyshare.com/v/UATCS2IG/file.html

>>2725459
I bought a Paperwhite with built-in light and it is probably one of the best purchases I have ever made. Reading at night is so satisfying and the device itself is pretty solid. Calibre also converts the book easily so it is a non-issue and I find more and more books in mobi format anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Oct 2018 18:05:04 No.2726220 Report

Quoted By: >>2726289

I recently read a sample of a book where one of the mc’s was deaf due to some childhood incident or something? and years later bumps into some woman on the street who spills her coffee, gay sparks ensue, etc...I can’t remember where I read it or what the book was called but I did find it interesting. Does anyone know of it and more importantly, have it??? It’s been on my mind for days! If someone could help I’d appreciate it a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Oct 2018 20:34:35 No.2726289 Report

Quoted By: >>2726328

>>2726220
>night
In the Silence by Jaimie Leigh McGovern

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Oct 2018 21:42:51 No.2726328 Report

Quoted By:

>>2726289
I wish I'd known the entire thing was in second person. Literally half of the words are just "you", "you're" and "your". I hate it, but now I have to finish it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Oct 2018 06:15:08 No.2726641 Report

Quoted By: >>2727014

I just finished The Instruments of Control. Jesus fucking christ. It's been a while since a book made me feel like I needed a breather when I was done with it.

I'm been butt chugging Schaefer's stuff like I need it to breath for the past two weeks (with good reason, it's fuckin great), but I think I'll take this opportunity to go back to my roots and read a comfy romance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Oct 2018 09:08:23 No.2726692 Report

Quoted By: >>2726978 >>2727016

Does anyone have any recommendations for less popular contemporary fiction where 1) not every single character is gay/queer, and 2) the main characters don't have some quirky/weird job? Bonus points if it includes the main characters realizing they're gay during the course of the story and not starting off badass super-butch known-since-age-zero.

Anon

Anon Thu 11 Oct 2018 21:05:55 No.2726978 Report

Quoted By:

>>2726692
That is utterly specific let me know what you find

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Oct 2018 22:33:48 No.2727014 Report

Quoted By:

>>2726641
I was exactly the same. The Revanche series is pretty grim, I needed to take a break after reading both the 3rd and 4th books before hopping back aboard the Daniel crazy-train

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Oct 2018 22:38:29 No.2727016 Report

Quoted By:

>>2726692
Unravel by Rebecca Lazaro maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 00:21:15 No.2727081 Report

Quoted By:

I like And Playing the Role of Herself just fine so far, but most of the conflict is the result of characters not communicating properly. Which is to say, the single most frustrating kind of conflict.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 09:36:50 No.2727286 Report

Quoted By: >>2727323 >>2727571

Something that annoys me is how quickly characters in ff literature fuck. Even worse what happened the last 2 books I tried. One is confirmed virgin, meets other woman and within DAYS they want to fuck like rabbits. Thats not how it usually works even with trashy women irl. Yuri is supposed to be the purest form of love. The eagerness to fuck destroys the intensity of the love. It becomes material, about pleasure. I really wish western authors would be willing to take a lesson from yuri in their ff. Yuri is so pure and great even handholding becomes a big deal. Lesfics are opposite, even sex seems meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 12:30:25 No.2727323 Report

Quoted By:

>>2727286
Check out the pathetic virgin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 18:53:01 No.2727571 Report

Quoted By: >>2730677

>>2727286
"Purity" is a social construct, mostly created by men like you who want an excuse to fetishise little girls. Western FF authors are largely actual lesbians, who couldn't give a fuck about purity and just want to write a romance that's satisfying to real people who want to read stories about realistic people. And real people really like to fuck, so there you go.

If you're so destroyed by the lack of pure-faggotry in western lit, you should definitely write your own. It's not illegal yet. Ask us for writing tips or critiques if you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 19:04:48 No.2727576 Report

Quoted By: >>2727660

Muh Android nee-sans, what's your favorite ereader app?

I use Google Play Books, cause it's got cloud sync and is the comfiest-feeling one I've used so far. But I really want to change because 1) I don't like being beholden to evil cyberpunk megacorporations, and 2) I'd love something with combined epub, mobi, and azw3 compatibility.

Something open-source would be just gorgeous, but I'm not holding my breath for that one.

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Quoted By: >>2727652

Any recommendations about historical fictions or something with slaves or captive girls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 21:46:34 No.2727652 Report

Quoted By: >>2727726

>>2727609
Nights of Silk and Sapphire by Amber Jacobs
Wind and Dreams by Linda North

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 22:03:28 No.2727660 Report

Quoted By: >>2727667

>>2727576
I use https://fbreader.org/ but there are probably better ones out there. I remember a while back a few people recommended moon+ reader, but I didn't like it over FBreader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 22:09:34 No.2727667 Report

Quoted By:

>>2727660
Holy shitstacks it's open-source. hontou ni arigatou nee-sama

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Oct 2018 22:10:46 No.2727669 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710960
Just discovered this board and I'm stupidly late to the party, but goddamn this art is great. Did you send it to Schaefer? He'd probably love it.

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~~~ Sat 13 Oct 2018 00:45:16 No.2727726 Report

Quoted By:

>>2727652
Thank you very much but I’d prefer something without polyamory

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Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 08:58:41 No.2727908 Report

Quoted By: >>2727966 >>2728000 >>2728408 >>2731495

Anybody got any recs on books about a captor trying to mindbreak their slave but in the process falling in love with them? Bonus points for the slave being a war trophy. Revanche Cycle bailed halfway, and now I crave something where the author had the balls to make the captor character a terrible human being and stick with it.

Anon

Anon Sat 13 Oct 2018 12:57:30 No.2727966 Report

Quoted By:

>>2727908
I think I fell in love with you just now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 14:32:26 No.2728000 Report

Quoted By:

>>2727908
The Queen's Slavewoman by Susanna Valent
Sapphic BDSM erotica. Very mediocre if you like this sort of stuff, probably bad if you don't. I'm only mentioning it because I don't know of any other titles that fit your request.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 23:57:53 No.2728368 Report

Quoted By: >>2728392

>And Playing the Role of Herself - K.E. Lane
Everyone loves this one, with good reason. I like it. Though I thought it was a bit silly that there were three separate death-scare flags. Most of the drama was super artificial, but the romance was generally sweet and suspenseful. And I now really want to read more actress romance. None of Jae's Hollywood series, though. One was enough.

>Thy Neighbor's Wife - Georgia Beers
An old so-deep-in-the-closet-she-doesn't-even-know-it high-society married-girl X standard lesbian ("insecure xena" template beta) romance. Nothing ground-breaking, but I liked all of the characters. Weirdly, every male character was at least sympathetic, if not lovely and supportive (even the cheating husband) and the only outright villainous characters were other women. Which I'm realizing I see kind of a lot in lesbian fiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 00:32:55 No.2728392 Report

Quoted By: >>2729355 >>2729687

>>2728368
>actress romance
If you haven't read this already, I recommend The Blind Side of Love, it's romance between an artist and a famous actress. Still hasn't been published yet, but I personally like the second draft more. It starts off excruciatingly slow, but if you can get past that, the payoff was so worth treading through the slow buildup. It's been years since I've read it so mentioning it now makes me want to reread it again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 01:13:26 No.2728408 Report

Quoted By: >>2728413 >>2728512 >>2728669

>>2727908
>Revanche Cycle
Can I get a review on this? Is there yuri and if so where? Description of first book makes it sound het if anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 01:27:21 No.2728413 Report

Quoted By:

>>2728408
Revanche Cycle is a series by an author who writes largely het material, but who this general has been jacking of for months because of his one /u/ series and his general quality of writing and world-building.

Revanche Cycle itself is a gritty, intense medieval/renaissance fantasy series that follows like 7 or 8 different protags, two of whom fall in lesbians eventually. It's an amazing read, and is relevant to this board cause the two lesbian protags are the focus of a sequel series called Wisdom's Grave.

If the lesbians is all you care about, just skip to Wisdom's Grave. But IMO you'll be doing yourself a disservice. I'm in the middle of reading ALL of Schaefer's stuff just for the great novels and world-building, since most is series converge at Wisdom's Grave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 03:44:24 No.2728512 Report

Quoted By:

>>2728408
Guess I'll be the 3-star reviewer then.

Revanche Cycle is the kind of grimdurr fantasy that thinks the only way to raise the stakes is for everybody to kill and betray everyone around them. And when murder and betrayals are happening left and right, it honestly gets tiresome. This character teamed up with this other character? Wow, he really must like sharp pointy things in his kidneys, can't wait for him to get betrayed for the fifth time. The writing is alright. I'm willing to forgive a lot because of the not-generic-medieval-thing-with-elves setting, although at points it's pretty obvious the author is more used to writing urban fantasy.

One of the main problems I had was the amount of character POVs and how I couldn't give two fucks about some of them by the end of the tetralogy. There are only so many times I can read about Felix the Badass violently stab someone and not get an urge to skip to the end of the chapter. Despite the storylines interconnecting from time to time, by the end of it they're mostly independent, which makes it doubly annoying if you're stuck with a chapter of people doing things that aren't particularly interesting and have no bearing on things happening in other POVs.

/u/ relationship was alright, I suppose, except that it went from "I'm going to murder this woman's adoptive father and break her will to use her in my schemes" to "hey bby want sum fuk" in roughly half a book, which might seem like long enough until you remember that it's stuffed with other storylines to the brim. The murder and mindbreak thing is also never addressed afterwards, and for all intents and purposes it seems like the reader should be convinced that she's happier after going through that. Guess I know what I'm going to do to my next date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 08:36:47 No.2728669 Report

Quoted By:

>>2728408
The books feature several intersecting story lines. One of them being het. One of them being lesbian. It's heavy on melodrama and Gary Stu/Mary Sue foolery. I cringed at how hard it attempted edgy one-liners. But you still want to know what happens next. Some conclusions are just too tidy, some parts just too cliche. But it was an ambitious piece and if you're starved for /u/ content in a fantasy setting then here it is. Just be prepared to sit through quite a few other storylines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 02:23:15 No.2729297 Report

Quoted By: >>2729356 >>2729583 >>2733966

anyone read charon docks at daylight? i just finished it a week ago and i still haven't recovered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 04:33:25 No.2729355 Report

Quoted By: >>2729687

>>2728392
Definitely second The Blind Side of Love. Still an all time favorite for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 04:35:40 No.2729356 Report

Quoted By: >>2729583

>>2729297
I just finished Breaking Legacies and am now currently reading Charon Docks at Daylight. I think this might be my favorite yet. I'm loving all the hate/love angst and the character development is amazing so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 18:14:05 No.2729583 Report

Quoted By: >>2729878

>>2729297
>>2729356
> charon docks at daylight

Why the fuck I have never heard of this one?
Really liked Breaking Legacies and In Spirit and Truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 21:40:58 No.2729687 Report

Quoted By: >>2729918 >>2730547

>>2728392
>>2729355
Just finished this, thanks for the recs. It was fucking amazing. I have some qualms about some of the characterizations, but above anything else, reading a slow-burn romance that's twice the length of a normal novel and yet never feeling it lag for a second, was astounding. This book is an instant favorite for me, and its not even done yet.

Seriously, I think I've read entire romance novels that were shorter than the time it took for these two MCs to even meet face to face. And yet I could not stop reading.

As I said, I think the characterization was a bit weak: every character is either the best person ever or cartoonishly evil (this gets gentler near the end). The lolsorandom style of humor started to grate by the end, but never enough to be overtly annoying.

Anyway, thanks again. I certainly wouldn't have found this. also I'm not sick of actress romance yet just so you all know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 22:34:53 No.2729701 Report

Quoted By:

>>2699500
>I don't think the "so bad it's good" approach works for books.
Correct. Editors usually keep the real stinkers out of print, so you end up with a lot of books that are mediocre or bad in a dull way.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 22:56:55 No.2729707 Report

Quoted By: >>2729875

Any suggestions for a gay man trying to write a short erotic /u/ piece? Dos and don'ts? I'm flying blind here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 04:48:02 No.2729875 Report

Quoted By: >>2729896

>>2729707
Probably read some lesbian erotica written by lesbians to get a feel for what's the same as you're used to irl vs what's different. Def key into how a lady being turned on is different form a man being turned on, and what it is about ladies that turns on other ladies. It's all in the nuance.

I feel like if I was a gay man, writing les erotica would just be, like, homework. What brought this on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 04:57:03 No.2729878 Report

Quoted By:

>>2729583
it's one of the author's free works up on fictionpress, so that's probably why. i haven't read in spirit and truth yet but it's going to take a lot to beat charon docks at daylight for me. it's just so fucking good i have no words.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 05:39:10 No.2729896 Report

Quoted By: >>2729900 >>2729926

>>2729875
>What brought this on?
Combination of reasons. Mostly it's because I thought it would be fun to challenge myself in a way I haven't before. Partially because people in my fandom are hopping onto a FOTM F/F couple but everything that's been written so far has all been ultra-short nonexplicit teehee not even any kissing bullshit or retroactively including them into ongoing stories that are overwhelmingly M/M as a background pairing whose presence in story is borderline nonexistent for representation points. The creative silence from the local lesbians has also been strangely deafening since they'd been complaining about the lack of female characters for years.

TL;DR I get writing practice and free (You)s because nobody else has written anything explicit for this couple yet, the lesbians get free porn, and the representation checkbox brigade gets to eat a bag of dicks. Everybody wins.

What are some not-terrible alternatives for the word vagina?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 05:49:46 No.2729900 Report

Quoted By: >>2729908

>>2729896
>What are some not-terrible alternatives for the word vagina?

Nothing. I don't mean in the Shakespearean sense, but really, you can write a sex scene without a single mention of the actual organ. It's pretty easy for the readers to infer what's going on and I think it can be hotter that way. For your first scene, though, you could just call it a pussy and be done with it. If you feel like you're repeating a single word too often, the problem isn't that you're running out of synonyms for it. Rather, repetition of the same thing is and a bunch of odd synonyms won't fix that.

What's the fandom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 06:03:47 No.2729908 Report

Quoted By: >>2729919 >>2730684

>>2729900
It's not a repetition problem, it's that I think vagina is a horribly ugly word and I thought pussy might be too blunt. I'd rather not say fandom. I already had to severely cut back on my writing this year and I don't want to get people's hopes up in case something else comes up and I can't finish it in a reasonable amount of time. I'll probably post it in the fic thread when it's done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 06:11:09 No.2729918 Report

Quoted By: >>2729926

>>2729687
Which version did you read? Because version 2 is superior in characterization in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 06:12:00 No.2729919 Report

Quoted By: >>2729924

>>2729908
Opinions vary, but personally, I've come to prefer blunt honesty over trying to come up with all sorts of weird metaphors over what really is a very simple and normal thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 06:15:32 No.2729924 Report

Quoted By: >>2729931

>>2729919
Not that guy, but I find sex descriptions that are too blunt off-putting. Like I'm reading a script to a cheap porno video or results of a medical examination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 06:17:12 No.2729926 Report

Quoted By:

>>2729896
>non-terrible alternatives to vagina
There are none. We've been looking for years. I'm sorry.

Some authors try to dress it up as her "opening" or her "sex", which is cringy but inoffensive. These are the same authors that inevitably drop a line about "running her fingers through soft, glistening folds", which is great for a laugh.

I have always wanted an author to just go full-on trash compactor with it and drop in every awful synonym they could find, the sillier the better. Pussy, vag, hoohah, cunt, slit, cunny, front-hole, gash, slash, snatch, mank, kitty, cooter, poon, twat, taco, clam, and my personal favorite, quim. Just throw em all in there, make it a real silly affair.

>>2729918
I read v2. The characterization wasn't that bad, it was one niggle that I latched onto for the sake of critique. I'm really looking forward to re-reading it when the author feels it's finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 06:20:02 No.2729931 Report

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>>2729924
If you focus entirely on the physical, yep, but I guess my point here is that I think the issue isn't with just the word choice for vagina. It's something else. If the fucking is not emotional enough, changing pussy to flower or somesuch won't fix anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Oct 2018 09:25:39 No.2729979 Report

Quoted By:

Some UF-ish stuff ...

Jea Hawkins - The Cupid Conundrum
Boring. It's a town full of supernaturals where something is causing people to fall in love with each other and the heroine trying to figure out what's going on, except that she's fairly uninteresting, that nothing ever happens, and the solution is too simple. Also, it leaves stuff open for the sequel.
Just wasn't any fun.

James T Callum - Sylvie Asleton and the Shrike's Curse
This is just a novelette, so pretty short, yet it felt way too long. Basically, a young woman doesn't really fit with society, until one day she receives a letter inviting her to a magic academy.

I'm kinda getting the feeling I have seen that plot before ...

But it's irrelevant; right, since surely that's just opening gambit so to speak. It's still 120 pages after all ... except; it isn't. That's really all there is to it. Well, there's then a bit at the end which concerns "the Shrike's Curse". But otherwise it's filled with endless woe-is-me introspective between every little piece of progress the novel makes. Very tedious to read.

LL Craft - Trial By Fire
Book 3 in the Abigail series; that fucked up dark urban fantasy thing. Since everyone seems to be in the mood for that sort of thing lately it's a timely release, I guess ...

But I didn't think it was as "good" as the first two. There's too many POVs, the prose seems to, as the plot progresses, lose some quality (like the author got less interested in editing along the way), and the plot doesn't go anywhere much. The previous book created a whole bunch of problems for the heroine to deal with, and in this one she resolves ... one. Kind of.

I'm not sure whether I remember the previous books being better than they actually are. I thought they were an interesting mix of the whole sex, power, violence, breaking some taboos thing ... coupled with an enjoyable "kill all the rapists!" message.

But this; too much sex (also some het), not enough of everything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Oct 2018 05:41:44 No.2730547 Report

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>>2729687
>Seriously, I think I've read entire romance novels that were shorter than the time it took for these two MCs to even meet face to face. And yet I could not stop reading.

I think that's one of the things I love about it. The author spent an enormous amount of time building up the characters separately that you end up loving them individually before they even come together, and you just end up loving them more when they do.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Oct 2018 06:05:29 No.2730554 Report

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fellas newfag here... any recommended /lit/ that includes absolute fucked up power dynamics
i.e slave/mistress or maid/mistress this kind of jams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Oct 2018 11:04:32 No.2730677 Report

Quoted By: >>2730821 >>2730916

>>2727571
>"Purity" is a social construct
Haha no.
>fetishize
Purity is the opposite because its not sexual.
>real people
Most real people are losers. I dont want to read about some disgusting bi whore arts degree self insert. I want to read about characters I can like and respect, who are smart and competent and have integrity. Not some hedonistic human trash.

I have been thinking about writing my own yuri story because I have some great and well thought out ideas. But then I wonder whats the point. Just fantasizing for myself is much more time efficient and I have a very busy life now. Why invest limited time+energy to write something that if anyone at all woll even read it its people like you who have completely different preferences and wouldnt appreciate it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Oct 2018 11:27:23 No.2730684 Report

Quoted By: >>2730724

>>2729908
You don't have to say it at all. Books tend to not even mention the proper names for sexual organs. With women you hear a lot of "entered her" or "pressed inside her" and usually describe the motions of what they do than the appearance of what they're doing it with.

Anon

Anon Wed 17 Oct 2018 12:33:40 No.2730724 Report

Quoted By: >>2731636

>>2730684
Would it bother anyone to read the correct nomenclature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Oct 2018 14:38:31 No.2730821 Report

Quoted By: >>2731487

>>2730677
But anon-kun, if you don't publish your no doubt well-characterized and expertly-plotted story, how will you ever bond with the pure, yuri-loving qt3.14 of your dreams and finally make her leave her chad bislut girlfriend, who beats her because she won't give up her kiss-virginity until she knows its right?

Don't worry though. After all, you're a really Nice guy, anon-kun. Someday soon she'll realize that the only reason she thinks she's gay is because she just hasn't realized she's already met the right man, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Oct 2018 16:01:03 No.2730916 Report

Quoted By: >>2731487

>>2730677
Are you not a real person?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 02:27:54 No.2731487 Report

Quoted By: >>2731549 >>2731588

>>2730821
You don't get it.

>>2730916
I am one. Significantly above average in material terms. I would never want to read a book about my life though. I want to read about magical girls saving the world from alien monsters because thats what fun is about. And maybe at the end their hands almost touch in a sign of deep platonic affection. Now that is some quality soulhealing entertainment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 02:44:11 No.2731495 Report

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>>2727908
Not a novel, but a Xena Uber fic. A Simple Strength by Nikipinz. I don't know about mind break, but she's pretty mean to her slave girl at the beginning, but by the end is totally whipped.

I remember liking it years ago, but who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 04:04:51 No.2731549 Report

Quoted By: >>2731822

You know, it's only when >>2731487 rears his pimply face that I'm reminded that this general exists on a porn board for weebs. I've all but abandoned 4chan at this point, the only time I come here is through a direct link to this thread and then I leave.

Anyone here hang out on any other lesfic forums? How do the different ones compare?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 05:22:43 No.2731588 Report

Quoted By:

>>2731487
>I would never want to read a book about my life though.
You should stop watching anime and live better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:04:53 No.2731636 Report

Quoted By:

>>2730724
I mean using the correct medical terms for things like sexual organs pushes the picture that you want to create a more scientific view of the act that's occurring. A more - distant perspective. It's why writers will opt to describe the emotions and use poetic imagery to pull the reader into the passion and to feel more intimate with the act.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 13:26:18 No.2731822 Report

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>>2731549
I would love to find another lesfic forum. Please share if you do find one !

Anops

Anops Thu 18 Oct 2018 13:32:10 No.2731825 Report

Quoted By: >>2732019 >>2732049 >>2732050

***GENERAL OP QUESTION***

How critical is the sex scene for you as the reader in relation to the overall opinion of a novel? If the sex scene is the only thing illogical would it ruin the novel for you?

I won't ask the reverse having read a bunch of published erotica lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 14:09:56 No.2731840 Report

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I've basically given up on sex scenes in the sense that I don't even know what I'd prefer myself. Either it's all flowery purple prose which puts them somewhere in the area of pretentious, ridiculous and needlessly verbose, or it's all blunt, making them crude and like reading a mechanical manual of "how to sex".

Plus, usually they are with no real emotional connection or anything that'd justify their existence for character or plot development. But then, if they do attempt this, it's usually in the form of some really cheesy stuff that's not necessarily much of an improvement either.

So, whatever. You can come up with reasons why whichever approach would be better or worse. Just pick something and stick with that and try not to be too ridiculous about it, I think.

Eliza Andrews - Princess of Dorsa
Very uninspired fantasy novel. Princess is dismissed as an heir because she's a female (obviously), but one day her father decides differently. Conspiracy happens and she loses her throne and then of course she has to get it back ... with the help of a bodyguard-type love interest.

Same old, same old. At least it's cleanly written. But then it kinda ends nowhere since, of course, there needs to be a sequel.

Also, for anyone who is into "purity", this novel is definitely not for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 18:40:57 No.2732019 Report

Quoted By: >>2732049 >>2732050 >>2732610

>>2731825
I can only speak for my own tastes, but the buildup is more important than the sex scene imo. Generally speaking if you fudge the sex scene but nail the build up it will still feel like an emotional payoff and the reader will remain invested. However if you write a good sex scene with little to no build up then it will lose its punch no matter how amazing it is (and we already have fanfiction for that). I'd be interested to see what other anons think though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 19:52:03 No.2732049 Report

Quoted By: >>2732610

>>2731825
I'm generally with >>2732019. What matters most is the EMOTIONAL orgasm. Ideally the readers should cream their hearts as well as their panties.

I think the physical act of sex is ridiculous, and any attempt to describe it, no matter how roundabout or metaphorical, is also ridiculous. What makes sex sexy is the feelings and emotions involved. And there is no better medium for portraying the feelings present in a very emotional love scene than a novel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 19:55:23 No.2732050 Report

Quoted By: >>2732610

>>2731825
If I'm reading anything other than romance, I usually skip the sex scenes. If reading romance, I'll skim the sex scenes in the middle (if there are any), and skip the one at the end (especially when things end well).

I do like what >>2732019 said, the build-up is more important. After a successful build-up, things can fade to black and not bother me at all. I don't particularly care what specific type of scissoring the main characters enjoy, or how sweet their juices taste. Get it over with and lets jump back to the story!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 05:28:58 No.2732323 Report

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>Lynn Ames - All That Lies Within
What if it turned out that your favorite award winning celebrity actress was also secretly your favorite award-winning celebrity author, and ALSO was secretly a psychic medium who talked to angels and ghosts? And you wrote a fan letter to her and you happened to be THE ONE person who really understood her?

The book is, unfortunately, exactly as vapid and naive as that summary suggests. The whole thing kinda reads like this urgent attempt to reconcile intelligence with blatant celebrity worship. Like, no, really, you can be smart and still be obsessed with celebrities! I'm not a STALKER, I just UNDERSTAND this INTELLIGENT, MISUNDERSTOOD person that everybody in the world knows about!

That combined with super rushed insta-love and melodrama so silly it made me laugh out loud at supposedly serious emotional moments made this one just a super weird kind of bad. That is of course unless the last three chapters somehow tie it together into a cosmic masterpiece, which one of you will have to test for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 11:05:50 No.2732412 Report

Quoted By: >>2732592

The Sting of Victory by SD Simper
Fantasy in which a naive royal garden mage falls into international politics and a love affair with a very dangerous foreign diplomat.

I'm a sucker for high fantasy so of course this grabbed me but it was still a rather nice surprise. The MC is witch with a dark past who recently got picked up by the court mage of a kingdom. Its a DnDish setting where magic is very common, fantasy races interact with each other regularly and the Gods have tangible effects on the world. Most of the cast are demi-gods or chosen by some god or demon and its pretty colorful and lively.

The focus of the book is about her relationship with Ayla, an elf (among other things) that everyone else hates but she loves, and if you hate the trappings of abusive relationships, this is one to avoid. In fact it kinda leaves it up to you whether the relationship is abusive but it definitely considers it to be rather toxic. This might be detrimental because the book does have plot stuff but for the most part its secondary to their relationship. I liked it, the plot stuff was so-so but the main's naivety can be irritating.

There is another plot involving a coming religious war, a guy who is suspiciously like Thanos and a vague GREAT DESTINY that is mostly for upcoming books but unfortunately experiences says that this is the type of book that doesn't really get sequels even if they are planned, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 11:13:55 No.2732417 Report

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Isle of Broken Years by Jane Fletcher
A spanish noblewoman on the way to be married off gets kidnapped by pirates. One pirate (actually a woman in disguise) starts to defend her from the others. And then the story goes in a completely different direction.

Now I actually would have been fine with a run-of-the-mill one good pirate romance, it being fletcher meant it was at least functionally written but the actual premise is far more interesting and it turns out to be a survivor thing.

It still is likely her most disposable book and a some of it relies on technobabble but it was pretty entertaining. Also that epilogue was pretty cute and put a smile on my face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 16:33:59 No.2732592 Report

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>>2732412
>but unfortunately experiences says that this is the type of book that doesn't really get sequels even if they are planned, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

On the plus side of things, the author has published some stuff before, so she's at least got a proven record of sorts.

But overall I'm inclined to agree.

Anops

Anops Fri 19 Oct 2018 17:04:31 No.2732610 Report

Quoted By: >>2732623 >>2732858 >>2732892

>>2732019
>>2732049
>>2732050

So it seems like it's generally the build up. And I like the phrase you used Emotional orgasm.

2nd part question then

Does this relate to all genres or purely romance?

Reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to build up a story and I'm having difficulties with the love scene. I've never made love with a woman so it's honestly a little scary for me to write it. I feel my inexperience will translate to the readers.

And before anyone asks yes I've witnessed it but it's not the same as experiencing it. And I feel to have sex with a woman just for literary purposes is just not my cup of tea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 17:23:28 No.2732623 Report

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>>2732610
Well sex scenes, specifically, tend to be the purview of romance and smut though I suppose the odd non-romance might have a weirdly placed scene or not. I'd suggest what the other nee-chans said about focusing on the build-up which can also involve foreplay/over the clothes groping. The fade to black would be anything heavier which might be more manageable if the build up is relatively straight forward. That is: flirting or characters' way of flirting(fighting/banter/hat stuff), leads to a heavy heated moment where they may just stare at each other as their minds action up to how they're feelings and then proceeded by heavy make out sesh that may or may not get more involved leading to groping and trying to undress. Cue fade to black then or scene change/chapter end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 19:05:33 No.2732710 Report

Quoted By: >>2733113

Anyone got a copy of Just Tell Her by Nicole Pyland they could share?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 22:57:05 No.2732858 Report

Quoted By: >>2733269

>>2732610
I always feel like an explicit sex scene is really out of place if the book doesn't have romance overtones. Doesn't need to be PURELY a romance novel, but if there isn't that context then it just feels like random porn.

The buildup within the scene (foreplay, building sexual tension, etc) is def important, but the buildup I was more referring to was the plot buildup, throughout the entire novel. If that longterm tension isn't there, and the plot just flips a switch from "not porn" to "porn", that's jarring. The buildup, both shortterm and longterm, serves to acclimate the audience to suddenly reading porn.

Anyway, about writing a love scene without having done it yourself: all I can really say is, do your research in whatever way you see fit. My advice is that sex is a five-sense experience, and that the best portrayals of emotional, loving sex are the ones in which both characters are too filled with sensing and experiencing each other to be able to form proper words in their heads or think clearly. Make their physical union represent their emotional union, like neither can tell where one's overflowing feelings end and the other's begin. That's of course for climactic, full-circle, trusting kind of sex. If they still don't totally trust each other or have a proper feel for each other yet, then it's less emotional and more sensory.

Oh also, on that note, sex scenes should ideally advance the plot a bit and not just be there for their own sake. Let the two characters discover something about each other during the hot banging that they could never have properly conveyed in words, or some such thing.

Maybe I should just write my computer science dissertation on the intricacies of lesbian lovemaking in fiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 23:45:22 No.2732892 Report

Quoted By:

>>2732610
Depending on how you "witnessed" it, you could ask for details on what it's like. It's an awkward question yeah, but sex is an awkward topic.

Other than that, the other anons have the right idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 03:41:37 No.2733023 Report

Quoted By: >>2733140 >>2733173

About to ask the worst question but I need to know. Besides CLAWS volume 1, is there any lesbian furry lit out there (f/u/rry)? I'm so sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 05:27:11 No.2733085 Report

Quoted By:

>Kristen Zimmer - The Gravity Between Us
I feel like people were talking about this one a while back, but I just finished it and loved it. My recent celebrity thing collided with my long-held love of well done best-friends-to-lovers stories, and it came out really well. The second act was a bit jumpy, and the confession was more rushed than I would have liked, but on the whole it was cute and heart-warming. It even had that strong dash of angst in the third act that drives me crazy in the best of ways.

Definitely has all the hallmarks of what they're calling "new adult" romance -- 18-22 age range MCs -- but I still loved it and felt the happily-ever-after was believable in the end. That's the worst part of YA and New Adult, is that as a more experienced life-liver it's often hard to believe that the couple could believably last past the end. This one beat that, I think. But that might just be my soft spot for the best friends thing, so who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 07:06:02 No.2733113 Report

Quoted By:

>>2732710
Here's a libgen link:
http://libgen.io/foreignfiction/ads.php?md5=9e1ee9421e207348caf37fa6d5ac01a5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 08:50:43 No.2733140 Report

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>>2733023
In a thread full of people asking for some rape mistress-slave porn? Nothing to be ashamed of.

Matt Doyle's Cassie Tam series features a little actual furry, in the sense of people dressing up in animal costumes for fetish reasons.

For novels with animal-esque protagonists, BK Hunter's Empyreal might fit.
Otherwise, I think I've come across one or two others (one might have been called jemya), but they were too shitty to remember. Shifter urban fantasy novels are probably the best fit you'll get otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 10:49:13 No.2733173 Report

Quoted By: >>2734416

>>2733023
Rebirth (Game of the Gods #1) by L. Fergus

This book has everything.

Anops

Anops Sat 20 Oct 2018 13:14:41 No.2733269 Report

Quoted By: >>2733746

>>2732858
Please write that!! Even if it's for fun I would love to read that actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 00:43:33 No.2733746 Report

Quoted By: >>2733780

>>2733269
I'll write you a command line based lesbian sex simulator that procedurally generates velvety folds and crashing waves of ecstasy instead, howbouthat?

Anops

Anops Sun 21 Oct 2018 01:41:25 No.2733780 Report

Quoted By:

>>2733746
Lmao would that be on my wishlist thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 08:33:16 No.2733966 Report

Quoted By: >>2734283

>>2729297
I considered it but the preface mentioned a male lead and a potential love interest for said male lead so I chose not to start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 21:07:38 No.2734283 Report

Quoted By:

>>2733966
oh no, don't let that scare you. the "male lead" is really more of a supporting secondary character and the story doesn't focus on his love life at all. he doesn't get in the way of the main characters and actually roots for them. that's all i'm going to say since i don't want to ruin the story, but i felt the need to say that so you don't miss out on an amazing story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 01:35:04 No.2734416 Report

Quoted By: >>2734804

>>2733173

Having some trouble with mobolism link. Can you post a link?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 16:44:32 No.2734804 Report

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>>2734416
https:// www105.zippyshare.com /v/ 1izqLpWi/file.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 12:25:51 No.2735409 Report

Quoted By: >>2735502

Weird coincidence: Glynn Stewart's Duchy of Terra action/mil scifi trilogy recently started the next series with a fourth book. It does a twenty year timeskip, introducing the previous main heroine's (step)daughter as a major character. And she might be gay.

KB Wager's Indranan War action/mil scifi trilogy recently started the next series with a fourth book. It keeps the same main heroine and doesn't do any timeskip, but she now appears to be bisexual (there was no romance in the first trilogy but if there had been any I would've expected het) and having the hots for an female alien.

Now, either case definitely isn't worth reading for the FF content (which is right now just hints), but I didn't expect anything for either them. So this was an odd surprise so shortly one after another for two kinda similar series. Don't tell me the promised times of casual insertion of lesbian relationships in general fiction is finally coming ...

Gabrielle Elling - Things Set Out To Find
A really weird novel about a rather weird, quirky heroine getting caught up in the End of the World. It's really hard to describe and I'm not sure what to make of it, but it managed to be somehow entertaining. Basically, she just goes here or there and nonchalantly talks to various supernatural entities until it all comes down to a dramatic showdown - unconventionally narrated, too.

It's also very, um, circumspect about its FFness. It's clearly not the focus, in any form at all. Just a really minor point. Well, compared to the fate of the world that makes sense ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 14:56:16 No.2735467 Report

Quoted By: >>2738895

Someone asked for semi-BDSM in the vein of 50Shits of Grue,but better. The Office by N.T. Morley has some het, but is focused on the new hire and her coworker's blooming relationship in a very strictly run office ....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 16:09:39 No.2735502 Report

Quoted By: >>2735552

>>2735409
>there was no romance in the first trilogy

So, are those interesting reads then? Could you do a summary? Spoil away, I don't mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 17:31:05 No.2735552 Report

Quoted By: >>2736112

>>2735502
Both trilogies are decent fun. I'm reluctant to call them "good", because the prose is more workmanship-like than anything tantalizing and neither plot or world-building or characters in either case is more than "basic."

IW is about a far-future matriarchal empire. The heroine's father (husband to the empress) gets killed. This derails the heroine's life and she chases after the murderer, becoming a gunrunner but failing to find the guy.
Later, her mother is dying, and her sisters are killed. Someone's come back to "clean up" her family. So the heroine is dragged back home to find herself heir ... and she's not rolling over dead for anyone.

What needs to be said is that the author made clear that she wanted a kickass heroine and that's what she wrote. Even when she commands fleets or marines the heroine still goes into danger herself, because that's just what she does and is good at. This is of course not always exactly believable. But it makes for a fun adventure, and there's some genuinely touching moments between the action.

As for no romance, I'll clarify that she does have an ex-boyfriend (he's killed right before the story starts). So the trilogy (which is all "defend her empire and defeat the bad guys", one large arc) has her grieving for the guy, which probably explains why there's no romance in it.

Duchy of Terra, for the curious, is about humanity having just reached the stars, and is immediately targeted by two competing alien empires. The "good" aliens win, and humanity then has to, however reluctantly, work with their occupiers. There's also only very little romance. Book 1's pretty good (heroine fighting a guerrilla war of sorts), book 2 at least was decently unique (heroine ruling earth and scheming), but I wasn't too into book 3 (mostly just action) and now 4 (same). The last two got a bit too generic for my taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 21:24:23 No.2735676 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone got a link for the cassie tam books?, can't seem to find them anywhere.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 22:02:53 No.2735694 Report

Quoted By: >>2735712 >>2735779 >>2735857 >>2735889

>>2693505
Finally, the thread that I need.

So g/u/ys is there such thing as a good yuri with NORMAL romantic(like het normies have)? I want romantic stuff, casually going on dates, touchy-feely moments, fucking flowers as present(I read a lot, but I could remember only 2 titles where a girl handed other girl a bouquet), walking at night, meeting parents and other family, build relationship. Where the fuck all that? I'm tired of /but we're both girls/You love me? Not as friend? Let me think a minute(chapter). I love you too! THE END./Plot which is built on misunderstandings/ Doing stupid shit 90% of time and say needed words "I love you" in the end just to hear a reply "I always loved you too! Our feeling are mutual"!/Fucking porn, where after or even without confession things go straight to the sex/Titles with only subtext which resolve and lead to nothing, or in worst case to the het.
Give me some if there's such a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 22:26:42 No.2735712 Report

Quoted By: >>2735779

>>2735694
That describes a huge amount of western books, just go through goodreads lists until you see something that interests you.

https://www.goodreads.com/list/tag/lesbian

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 00:25:30 No.2735779 Report

Quoted By: >>2735936

>>2735694
>>2735712
Manga only. Chinese and Korean stuff are welcomed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 02:19:30 No.2735842 Report

Quoted By: >>2738461

Does anyone have a link for Villains Don't Date Heroes? Didn't find a working link anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 02:49:20 No.2735857 Report

Quoted By: >>2735889

>>2735694
Yeah, I've always like the idea of a book that focuses heavily on the growth of a relationship after they've gotten together. But either I'm shit at searching for books, or not many of these types of stories exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 03:39:36 No.2735889 Report

Quoted By:

>>2735694
>>2735857
Most romance books we read here fit that description, though. They're usually just about normal fucking adult lesbians who have nothing to do with japan or anime. If you're reading more books where the romance is a background element then it'll probably leave more to the imagination.

For the noob-san, I recommend anything by Robin Alexander, she's a great gateway into les romance. Specifically The Summer of Our Discontent or The Secret of White Oak Lake, I'd say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 05:19:48 No.2735936 Report

Quoted By: >>2736035

>>2735779
That's what the general thread is for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 10:11:55 No.2736035 Report

Quoted By:

>>2735936
Sorry, my mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 14:03:13 No.2736112 Report

Quoted By:

>>2735552
Much appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Oct 2018 01:26:31 No.2736472 Report

Quoted By: >>2736646

>>2715580
Eat Monster is very good. Your post made me read La Livi. I am halfway in. It's not bad but I don't like it that much either. The other interesting sounding books seem too hardcore though. I don't want smut. How should I proceed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Oct 2018 09:45:51 No.2736646 Report

Quoted By: >>2736803

>>2736472
Well, I don't know. You could look around and see if you find some other novels that fit the theme. It's not like I know all of them, and I'm sure I forgot some too. Or you could concentrate on another theme and forget about the D/s part - for example, "if you like The One Who Eats Monsters, you might also like Elizabeth Watasin's Monster Stalker" (which is very different but I feel has a similar appeal. A cute monster hunting monsters).

> "Got it. Stupid nickname. You are Lone Nico and Bear. Were you a dark avenger back on Old Earth? And if so, can I have your autograph?"

That being said, Absent in Absinthe and Deep Down Inside are smut; the other's I don't think have even any graphic sex. Plus, Requies Dawn is entirely consensual, so I don't think it's that "hardcore". Mistress of the Topaz, well; their relationship doesn't do much with the mistress-slave thing either (specifically the heroine basically immediately promises to abolish slavery altogether). But it's a bit of a weird two-book series anyway so no clue how much that one appeals to others anyway.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Oct 2018 16:44:06 No.2736803 Report

Quoted By: >>2737367

>>2736646
Ive had Monster Stalker downloaded for many months but still not tried it. I guess it's time. Also I don't care much about bdsm, I was primarily interested in that post because it includes Monster Eater. Thanks btw, I appreciate your help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 11:28:55 No.2737367 Report

Quoted By: >>2737727 >>2737823

>>2736803
I just love that type of book. Uncomplicated action-adventures. Kick some bad guy butt. Find a bit of quirky romance. Good guys win, and everyone's happy and singing and there's rainbows and unicorns.

Good stuff.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 01:17:44 No.2737727 Report

Quoted By: >>2737850

>>2737367
Well what I don't like about monster eater is that it contains rape. It's such a shame. Also the romantic stupidity of the senator girl towards the end where she crushes on her almost killer. Without those two the book would be my first 10/10.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 09:10:52 No.2737823 Report

Quoted By: >>2737850

>>2737367
Well then, might I suggest checking out my ongoing novel The Sword and the Storm which you can find on AO3 /works/15912519!
That being said, most of the bad guy butt kicking is still to come but there will definitely be some. All critique is greatly appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 10:10:25 No.2737850 Report

Quoted By: >>2738034 >>2738224 >>2738813

>>2737727
Well, you won't like that about Monster Stalker then either. Especially since it's nudge more clearer about that aspect.

My main objections to "Monster Eater" would be that I feel it becomes a bit too cliché YA-ish in some scenes; and some of the "badassery" is put in a bit of a clumsily cheesy way instead of a funnily cheesy one. Guess there's a thin line between those. Like, in the end she tells Denise, as some sort of sign of affection, that she doesn't want to kill her. That's such a trope-ish thing to say; and it really makes no sense; she never expressed otherwise and the entire book is about her eating monsters - not every random generic person.
Stuff like that. But it's already nitpicky things, and if the sequel doesn't do anything worse than that I'm really not complaining.

I am complaining however about the sequel being delayed. Again. Gngngn.
On the other hand: 3 days until Monster Baru Cormorant!

>>2737823
Shameless self-promo, eh? I approve.

Looks okay, but there's an enormous gap between yet-another-generic-fantasy novel and Monster Stalker/"Monster Eater". I suppose I should have emphasized the creative aspect of the novels more; to make clearer what I like about them: yes, I like the uncomplicated kick-assery. But really only because it happens in such a weird ways as that a vamp with a teddy bear wanders through some weird science fantasy setting; or that some grumpy-cute "what is this money thing you are talking about?" monster goes around eating the hearts of rapists ... not so much "look at another pseudo-medieval-European-fantasy thing with a mage and a knight". Sorry.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:30:10 No.2738034 Report

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>>2737850
That's fair. Not like there's a gaping deficit of the corny kind of shit that I write. Maybe some day I'll come up with something that stands out from the get-go, but for now I'll focus on finishing that one. Give it a shot if you ever find yourself very bored!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:18:11 No.2738224 Report

Quoted By: >>2738466 >>2738470

>>2737850
>3 days until Monster Baru Cormorant
>tfw haven't been able to concentrate on reading anything else this month
We're so close. What are everyone's hopes/dreams/fears for it? I'm not sure I'd be ready for Baru to get a new LI, it's been 3 years and I still haven't recovered from Tain Hu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 09:39:20 No.2738461 Report

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>>2735842
Mobilism have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 10:01:32 No.2738466 Report

Quoted By: >>2738470

>>2738224
Hoping for some cute fluff managing to sneak in somewhere in between things going to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 10:22:41 No.2738470 Report

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>>2738224
>>2738466
Yeah. Well, I don't know about "cute", but just solely "doom and gloom" on every page would be too depressing.

Hopefully also no graphic rape/torture. We already know "conversions" happen and that'll probably come up again but maybe be not too fucked up with it?

Also, please not too much of a cliffhanger? I don't think this'll be the last book of the series. Book 1 was wrapped up incredibly nicely, to the point where it'd have almost accepted it as a stand-alone novel. I don't think the sequel can be quite that tied up, but please stop at a point where the further wait won't be too painful.

As for hopes, well, more of the same brilliant prose is one I feel I can bank on. More intricate world building. And Baru doing at least one epic thing at some point is hopefully also not asking too much (again that might depends on how doom and gloom it is. If does one of those "protagonist need to pull themselves together again" arcs it might be).

Either way, I'm obviously eager to read it. So eager I just might not read it on release and instead keep it around for just the right day. However that day might look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 01:52:01 No.2738813 Report

Quoted By: >>2738838 >>2738992

>>2737850
Wait, there's rape in Monster Stalker too? Again the MC? Please no. It's so overused and stupid. If you think you need rape to make me sympathize with a character you are doing it wrong.

Also, I dislike Baru and was very disappointed when I tried it after all the hype it got. I am excited about the sequel of Eater though. Be patient, I want a polished book not a rush job.

Hmmm what should I read now... Maybe Women Warriors or maybe pick up the first Alpennia again. I have a habit of ambandoning books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 02:38:31 No.2738829 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone got a share of The Music and The Mirror by Lola Keeley?

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Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 03:05:58 No.2738838 Report

Quoted By:

>>2738813
>I dislike Baru and was very disappointed when I tried it after all the hype it got. I am excited about the sequel of Eater though
Not that anon, but the exact opposite happened to me - I read Baru expecting not to like it but it's probably one of my fave f/f reads and I can't wait for book 2 to drop. On the other hand I expected Eater to be an instant classic after the rave reviews on here but I found it merely 'okay'. Way too anime and YAish for my tastes. Then again YA is an extremely hit or miss genre for me, even with /u/ in it

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Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 03:50:38 No.2738895 Report

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>>2735467
The cover made me 'nope'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 10:03:27 No.2738992 Report

Quoted By:

>>2738813
I'd agree that it feels a bit "detached" in Monster Eater as it really doesn't do anything for Rin's character development that seems particularly relevant (although I do think that it happening makes sense in the context of how Matthews decided to open the novel), but in Monster Stalker it's really not some "thrown in" background but part of the "my maker was a fucked up psychopath!" theme the plot has. And it's very relevant.

So I wouldn't agree with that it's just there to generate some cheap sympathy points.

WWWW and Alpennia are both pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 14:47:14 No.2739067 Report

Quoted By: >>2739243 >>2739250

I just read Monster Eater and I really loved it, I read Monster Stalker as well and it was pretty good but I didn't like it as much. I think that's just because I prefer more YA stuff though.
Any other recommendations for simillar stuff?
Also with all the BDSM talk in this thread I would recommend Sunstone, it's a 5 volume graphic novel (the first graphic novel I've read) That does has quite a bit of sex, but also has good character development and romance and I really enjoyed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 22:43:42 No.2739243 Report

Quoted By: >>2739250

>>2739067
As long as there isn't another delay, the sequel to monster eater should be out pretty soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 23:02:30 No.2739250 Report

Quoted By: >>2739387 >>2740005

>>2739067
Not YA, but maybe Penman's Year of the Knife? Kinda. Otherwise your best bet is probably poking around urban fantasy.

>>2739243
There will always be another delay.
>Casey Matthews Yes, but sadly, none of them particularly good updates. I'll have a fuller post on this soon, but definitely no Halloween book, and I think it's going to be a long haul. I am trying to hit a certain benchmark for the month, though.

Anyway, it's midnight here, so Monster Baru is out! Weee ....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 00:49:25 No.2739328 Report

Quoted By: >>2739341 >>2739387

Can I get a download link for Monster Stalker by Elizabeth Watasin?
The usual places don't seem to have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 01:16:15 No.2739341 Report

Quoted By: >>2739744

>>2739328
It's in the big /u/lit archive torrent in the OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 03:19:01 No.2739387 Report

Quoted By: >>2739744

>>2739250
Knife has been on my reading list forever but I never got a copy.

>>2739328
If you dont find it I can share it tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 04:38:17 No.2739425 Report

Quoted By:

>Casting Lacey - Elle Spencer
Hollywood A-list actress hires a gorgeous low-tier actress to be her fake girlfriend in order to aid her coming out. Fake romance + Hollywood.

This one was super confusing. The two MCs had this really sexy love-hate chemistry that was awesome for the first half, except I had such a hard time telling the play-wrestling banter from the actual fighting. So every now and then they'd suddenly be having this heated, emotional argument before I'd even realized it.

That, and all the actual progress happens in the last quarter of the book. And when it does, it comes in like a freight train. It all seemed super rushed, especially the ending, where they suddenly and unceremoniously reconcile from months of being broken up -- after fracturing their trust in each other in a really real way -- and then immediately get married without ever talking about it. And that's just the end.

There was this crazy ex girlfriend character who was painted as kind of a love-sick sociopath, and the book tried really hard to make the new gf her opposite. But in the end, that gf had kind of done all the same shit that the ex did, that homegirl was all traumatized over. And the only reason it was okay this time was twue wuv. Had a lot of potential, but I was ultimately disappointed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 19:08:29 No.2739693 Report

Quoted By: >>2739694 >>2739952

Thought I'd start on Monster Baru. But it starts just slightly before the very end of Traitor Baru. You know what that means.

Seth, you evil bastard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 19:10:42 No.2739694 Report

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>>2739693
Clearly it's so you can start on the series without reading the first book! Very cunning.

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Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 20:16:50 No.2739711 Report

Quoted By: >>2739952

its out
any one reading it ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 21:39:12 No.2739744 Report

Quoted By:

>>2739341
>>2739387
Found it. Thanks anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 03:56:28 No.2739891 Report

Quoted By: >>2739919

I want to make a plot that has a revelation near the end or at the end that flip the reader's perception of the entire story. Sadly, the ones that I could come up right now only stop at "surprise/didn't see that coming" and not challenge the reader's understanding of previous events.

So can /u/ spoil me some stories that have done this well for reference? Doesn't have to be yuri, and I don't mind spoilers. Some of the ones I can remember are:

>Fight Club
The narrator realized a person in his story didn't exist, that's when his mental health comes into question.

>Madoka
An antagonist who constantly prevented the MC from obtaining magical power was revealed to be a friend who had been turning back time over and over to save the MC from a terrible mistake.

>Truth (Namori's short manga)
A playgirl was caught cheating on her girlfriend. It was foreshadowing that it's the seductress' plan to seduce the playgirl and ruined her life, because she was jealous that her best friend has a crush on the playgirl. After this truth came out, the girlfriend broke up with the playgirl, the seductress also ran away in shame, leaving the playgirl clinging on the best friend. It's then the real truth is revealed: the best friend had planned all this, by manipulating the seductress into ruining the playgirl's relationship, to have the playgirl all to herself.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 04:48:10 No.2739919 Report

Quoted By: >>2739948 >>2739964

>>2739891
Some parts of video games that I think did it well enough:

>Bravely Default
Protagonists help a fairy save the world from darkness by empowering some crystals, the fairy repays them with murder and then hops to the next world to repeat the cycle. The game you play and the party you play it with are the latest in a very long line of murdered parties. There is a journal that somewhat accurately "predicts" the future but actually a journal written by a party member from the previous world that slipped through with the fairy.

>Final Fantasy VII
Baby's first unreliable narrator. The main character unknowingly takes on the persona of his slain superior officer and it is revealed much later that he was only a grunt. The main character's childhood friend knew this the whole time (she knew the officer) and would always act strange/quiet when the MC started with his "war stories" but was scared of what might happen if she said anything.

A book series:
>The First Law Trilogy
Difficult to tl;dr, but I'm still reeling from this set-up. A wizard hand picks a diverse team of adventurers to help him get access to Macguffin Tower. Played entirely straight for two whole damn books as an adventure story of a party who starts rough but grows together, then comes crashing down in the third book when the wizard was actually a huge asshole and needed new pawns and powers for his political aspirations. Group is shattered, character bonds were not nearly as strong as the happier books might have led you to believe, no one is happy, the world is shit.

I'm a huge sucker for things with a twist that make me read/watch/play again and pick out stuff I missed (sometimes it's embarrassingly obvious).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 06:10:28 No.2739948 Report

Quoted By: >>2739962

>>2739919
Not sure if its SUPER what you're looking for, but the first one that jumps to mind is an old D&D Planescape tie-in novel; a very rare example of a QUALITY tie-in novel.

>The Pages of Pain, by Troy Denning
The main hero is this bronzed Greek demigod hero type who comes off to everyone as the archetypical valorous, honorable hero. He is tasked by Poseidon to deliver an offering to the Lady of Pain, the silent, reclusive, and unforgiving goddess of all suffering. The book is narrated in the third person BY the Lady herself as she invisibly watches the hero's travels. She offers insights about him throughout the book that are evident to almost no other character, and by the end you've realized that underneath it all he's just this sad, self-obsessed drunkard who can't help but ruin the lives of anyone who becomes truly close to him, and that the Lady has taken an interest in him because he is such a good vessel for the pain and suffering that she brings to the multiverse.

I have read very few novels that make such good use of third-person narration as a gateway into the universe. Its also cool because the novel's narration is the only canonical example of the Lady of Pain breaking her silence, and she does so to speak directly to you, the audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 06:21:36 No.2739952 Report

Quoted By:

>>2739711
No kindle version available yet, so no. Very keen to hear other's impressions though

>>2739693
>Having to re-live THAT ending
Thought the author might pull his punches this time around. Evidently not. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 07:04:24 No.2739962 Report

Quoted By: >>2740277

>>2739948
Due to your random capitalization, I don't know if you know this, but "quality" and "QUALITY" have opposite meanings on 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 07:13:11 No.2739964 Report

Quoted By: >>2739967

>>2739919
Thank you, I'll check those out. Bravely Default sounds like a cool Madoka variation.

I also like unreliable narrator stuff but kinda unsure about writing it myself out of fear for being cliché.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 07:17:18 No.2739967 Report

Quoted By: >>2740104 >>2740167 >>2740278

>>2739964
I wouldn't recommend Bravely Default. As a player, you figure out the "twist" much earlier than the characters, so watching them stumble around blindly gets annoying. Not to mention the gameplay get tedious halfway through the game. There are only so many bosses, but they get reused over and over and over again under the excuse of "another cycle".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 08:45:44 No.2740005 Report

Quoted By: >>2740676

>>2739250
Do you have a link to Year of the Knife? I can't find it anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 10:04:01 No.2740016 Report

Quoted By: >>2740676 >>2740698

Don't have any new impressions (except Charon Docks, really entertaining except that ending was some kind of bullshit, even if I'm not mad at it) so just posting some general thoughts.

When the author was writing Baru 2, he found that it grew so big that he split it in half and the first half is Monster. It turns out while rewriting the second half for 3, it grew so big that he had to split it again. So Baru 2 might basically be a trilogy on its own.

Girls of Paper and Fire is coming soon but everyone has posts this huge warning, it apparently has graphic het rape and abuse so avoid if you feel like.

I've noticed that a recent trend for romance series is to have sequel books be about different protags and so more sequels are about F/F romances. Not sure how to feel about this, I tried to read a Treason of Truths by Ada Harper but couldn't get anywhere because its a sequel and the first book is M/F.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 10:25:46 No.2740018 Report

Quoted By:

Foundryside by Robert Jackson Bennett

Has anyone read this ? I'm still halfway through the book and was surprised to find that the MC is gay. I only started this book because big time fantasy authors rated it highly.

It's pretty good and has a very interesting magic system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 14:34:01 No.2740104 Report

Quoted By:

>>2739967
That's a pity. Well I only intend to watch its LP anyway. I still want to see how they execute the revelation and the journal entries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 16:35:35 No.2740167 Report

Quoted By: >>2740184 >>2740278

>>2739967
>There are only so many bosses, but they get reused over and over and over again under the excuse of "another cycle".
I feel this part of the game gets a bad wrap. The non-crystal fights are entirely optional and enemy party config changes every time. The asterisk boss rush and flavor text is like the only GOOD thing about the looping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 17:40:39 No.2740184 Report

Quoted By: >>2740278

>>2740167
I liked different variations of boss parties at first, but at some point it became "let's just shove everyone into this one fight". By that point I was already cheesing with time mage, healer and two Luets, so it's not that the combat was any difficult, but I felt like the devs have eventually given up on providing reasons for bosses to appear together. Before it was at least justified, like those two are working together, and these happened to be on the same battlefield, and that pair over there is also doing something, who the fuck cares, but by the end it's just "eh, just put a boss gauntlet there or something, we're shipping in two weeks".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 22:09:43 No.2740277 Report

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>>2739962
Please pardon my philistine ways, I'll be sure to promptly kill myself and then afterwards lurk moar for good measure.

I actually do think it's an outstanding novel, despite being a tie-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 22:12:17 No.2740278 Report

Quoted By: >>2740309 >>2740345

>>2739967
>>2740167
>>2740184
I need to finish this game, I made it to like the second time loop. I remember being so proud of myself for my spellsword-valkyrie hybrid that could sweep a same-level enemy party in like 2 turns.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 23:40:54 No.2740309 Report

Quoted By: >>2740345

>>2740278
Don't forget to break a crystal to get a cute outfit for Agnes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Oct 2018 23:57:04 No.2740315 Report

Quoted By: >>2740322 >>2740341

Since we're on the topic of video games, anyone gotten the chance to read the Assassin's Creed Odyssey novel? I know it's been like a day since it came out, but still...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 00:28:15 No.2740322 Report

Quoted By:

>>2740315
Is it uploaded anywhere yet? I usually avoid vidya novel tie-ins like the plague but I'm willing to break my rule this one time for Kassandra

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 01:17:30 No.2740341 Report

Quoted By: >>2740451

>>2740315
Are there lesbians in it?

I ask partly because this thread and partly because I think I remember hearing that game's set in ancient Greece (Xena times) and the ancient Greek poet Sappho is the literal origin of the word 'lesbian'.

I imagine a DLC set on Lesbos full of gaggles of cute toga-clad girls calling each other onee-sama

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 01:24:13 No.2740345 Report

Quoted By: >>2740348

>>2740278
>>2740309
Oh and I just now remembered how desperately hard I shipped Agnes and Edea. They would have been so much better as a couple than what I perceived to be the canon pairs.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 01:31:46 No.2740348 Report

Quoted By: >>2740416

>>2740345
>Agnes/Edea
I shipped this really hard too. Agnes has such a good balance of demure/ballsy that plays so well with Edea's everything.

Never play the second game. It has, without a doubt, the most forced pair the spares/compulsory heterosexuality pairing I have ever encountered across all media, forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:22:41 No.2740416 Report

Quoted By: >>2740417 >>2740812

>>2740348
National Novel Writing Month starts tomorrow. Today, for some of us. Anyone participating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:23:45 No.2740417 Report

Quoted By:

>>2740416
Unintentional quote

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 06:39:38 No.2740451 Report

Quoted By: >>2740701

>>2740341
Lesbos is accessible in the base game. No onee-samas, but you can shag plenty of girls on your way to it, since it's one of the endgame zones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 10:23:17 No.2740543 Report

Quoted By:

Started reading Charon Docks, and I don't get the hype. So far it reads like one of those amateur YA zombie novels, complete with unnecessarily detailed descriptions of the MC's face and attire, as well as repeating actions (I took the flashlight with my teeth, then took it out, then took it with my teeth again). The MC is, of course, a young prodigy, who is more capable of commanding several squads of soldiers than any of the actual soldiers, despite not having any prior military experience whatsoever. She's a bit of a rebel, naturally, and doesn't feel comfortable being addressed formally. She has a best buddy who will go through hell and back for her, and she values him very much, especially because they can banter like old pals without any formalities between them.
I even reflexively checked for "zombie apocalypse AU" in the description before remembering that FictionPress doesn't usually host fanfics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 10:24:38 No.2740544 Report

Quoted By: >>2740560

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 10:59:21 No.2740560 Report

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>>2740544
It is pretty much a YA post apoc novel. Its main appeal is that once the MCs meet they have a really intense love/hate relationship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 16:36:54 No.2740676 Report

Quoted By: >>2740698

>>2740005
Imagine a rousing (if somewhat hypocritical) speech about supporting lesfic authors and shit here.

Then buy it.

>>2740016
>Girls of Paper and Fire
Early reviews seem very good but I can't tell whether it's just some Handmaiden's hype or actually good.

Guess I might actually have to read it. Despite the sex slave setting. Urk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:11:01 No.2740698 Report

Quoted By:

>>2740676
>>2740016
>Girls of Paper and Fire
>YA
>Het rape
That's a hard pass from me. Hopefully it's good enough that other anons here enjoy it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:22:03 No.2740701 Report

Quoted By: >>2740703

>>2740451
Do you mean delightful lesbian shagging or obligatory her shagging? Can you play as a woman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:27:13 No.2740703 Report

Quoted By: >>2740706

>>2740701
Yes, the new Asscreed has an option to choose a woman as a protagonist (search for Kassandra). The series is now a Witcher style RPG so the MC can have optional romances, quite a few of which are women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:29:23 No.2740706 Report

Quoted By: >>2740811

>>2740703
Damn. Haven't touched the since Black Flag, but I might give this one a spin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:39:05 No.2740712 Report

Quoted By: >>2740716

New quote from Holy Sister:

Lying wakeful in her narrow bed Nona had thought of Ara in her own narrow bed three cells down. Ara who had taken the Red. Ara who she could not allow to come to harm. Not because of some cryptic request from Abbess Glass but by the order of her own heart. And when at last her dreams had come they had been troubled ones, filled with screaming, with blood, and with the light of shiphearts.

So maybe there is hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:41:50 No.2740716 Report

Quoted By: >>2740717

>>2740712
>So maybe there is hope.
Ah-hahaha.

Never.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:45:11 No.2740717 Report

Quoted By: >>2740721

>>2740716
Be optimistic anon lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:49:51 No.2740721 Report

Quoted By:

>>2740717
I've been wrong about books before, as I have been surprised by /u/ development before, but a series doing what would have essentially been "het baiting" in book 2 I've never seen or heard of.

Sure, one day there's going to be that first time for that. And, well, I'll read the novel anyway; I'm sure it'll still be have some entertaining kickassery.

But this one got to be het. Everything else would just be completely incomprehensible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 20:17:32 No.2740811 Report

Quoted By: >>2740821

>>2740706
Just a heads up, but "optional romances" are usually just quick rolls in the hay after you complete your bed warmer's personal questline. I don't think either of them play any major role in the story, and none get content as extensive as romances in Witcher 3. Still fun, but you'll need to like the game itself if you're going to get anything from pursuing those ancient Greek lesbos. And some of them aren't even lesbos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 20:20:51 No.2740812 Report

Quoted By: >>2741071

>>2740416
kind of, though I'm not writing a novel but a play so no word count for me
you ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 20:28:54 No.2740821 Report

Quoted By:

>>2740811
To be fair, both Daphnae and Kyra's romances have a decent amount of build-up, multiple quests etc. Enough to feel an impact at their conclusions imo. I agree about needing to like the game and setting though.

Anonymous

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I'm starting something. No real word goal, storyboards, or character profiles yet, but I'm wingin it. Fingers crossed it'll go somewhere.

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